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Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - Corn - 2014-06-01
ChaoticCJ Wrote:I had considered that you were insane which would mean that both Meta and Holypie are pirates. This information seems correct till you take into account that Holypie is taking on Meta, while talking about bussing. While this is entirely possible, it seems really unlikely, because it would only leave him confirmed as pirate.
I REALLY doubt that Meta is the Godfather, since Zelkova had that role.
Quite frankly I never played a game with two (or three..?) cops either.
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - VerrKol - 2014-06-01
Again, my name is Gabriela Gemma.
[MENTION=3195]ChaoticCJ[/MENTION]; You may have voted for Zelkova previously, but you were not one of the people who lynched him. That's a wash at best.
[MENTION=41]Holypie[/MENTION]; Bussing only really makes sense when the pirafia is conclusively outed. Yes Zelkova looked suspicious as pineapple, but allow me to play devil's advocate for a moment. Let's pretend I'm a pirate and review the voting record for that day.
Shidoshi Wrote:Vote count
Zelkova had received only 1 vote from Polantaris. If I were a pirate I could have A) voted for someone else with Zelkova or B) voted No Lynch with CJ to save him. A) would obviously be suicidal for both but B) would have theoretically saved a pirafia merely by opting not to lynch. I had a swing vote here since Olsi and Niernen didn't bother to vote at all. Does it seem logical for a pirafia to vote off another when they could easily be saved? Yes it could theoretically be bussing, but that hardly makes any sense given the small margin and number of abstentions.
You may call it heavily relying on my vote record, but I call it using the only concrete information we have available. What exactly would you expect a survivor to do in my situation?
I could reiterate again that I did not intend to get Words lynched that day, but you can reread those posts yourself and judge since I can't really offer any proof.
I really can't figure out why you've become fixated on me because your logic is all over the place.
[MENTION=10201]Niernen[/MENTION]; How about you actually give us some compelling reasons to keep you alive or at give us a better candidate?
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - Holypie - 2014-06-01
ChaoticCJ Wrote:Okay this is the part that makes me think you are a pirate, although most evidence says you are not. IF you do think Corn is the true cop why are you voting MetaSeraphim? Corn specifically said he was innocent. It would actually make much more sense to go after xBTAx.
I'm voting him because I think he's lying and that Corn and BTA are innocent, also most of the people I suspect are on island A so can't do much about that. Also, I don't think it would make sense for there to only be one cop if that cop was as weak as Sega. There's no guarantee that he gets information and (from what we've seen) the only roles that really need to switch islands often were town. This led me to believe (possibly correctly?) that there would be another cop, that was probably weakened in some way.
Bussing isn't necessarily when a mafia is condemned, a good strategy is to go after a fellow mafia early on, cementing alliance with the town.
Since clearly nobody is listening to me, I guess we'll have to wait until tomorrow to sort this stuff out with you, VerrKol.
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - Olsi - 2014-06-01
Corn Wrote:Quite frankly I never played a game with two (or three..?) cops either.
More likely that you are pirafia and verrkol is innocent I think, it just doesnt make sense looking at verrkol's history. Which means Holypie becomes a lot more suspicious....
Not to mention there has been no innocent deaths on Island A and one pirate kill on Island A, I think we can assume the majority are on Island B (being 2)
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - Holypie - 2014-06-01
It doesn't really matter now I guess, nobody's going to change their mind and we're on opposite islands anyway. Let's just wait for the evening and see what happens. Corn if you're lying I'm going to hate you forever.
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - VerrKol - 2014-06-01
Olsi Wrote:Not to mention there has been no innocent deaths on Island A and one pirate kill on Island A, I think we can assume the majority are on Island B (being 2)
Well, there was Words...but still a much better track record than island B
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - Olsi - 2014-06-01
VerrKol Wrote:Well, there was Words...but still a much better track record than island B
My bad, I meant via mafia
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - VerrKol - 2014-06-01
Olsi Wrote:My bad, I meant via mafia
Oh wow! I actually hadn't caught on to that. I need to go back and look at who was murdered each night...
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - Niernen - 2014-06-01
What Kind of evidence could I give that I'm not a pirate? Doesn't really look like anything I can say at this point would change anyone's mind. Looks to me like I'll get lynched, Island A will be down a survivor, and then the remaining survivors should know who the pirate is. Worst case, I get lynched and the last survivors get killed by pirates. If Corn is the investigator (if there are multiple), then that probably means Verrkol is a pirate.
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - ChaoticCJ - 2014-06-01
VerrKol Wrote:Again, my name is Gabriela Gemma.
ChaoticCJ; You may have voted for Zelkova previously, but you were not one of the people who lynched him. That's a wash at best.
Holypie; Bussing only really makes sense when the pirafia is conclusively outed. Yes Zelkova looked suspicious as pineapple, but allow me to play devil's advocate for a moment. Let's pretend I'm a pirate and review the voting record for that day.
I don't expect you to trust me, because let's face there are other people who are more of a concern. In Island A, in order of suspicion is Niernen > Olsi > ChaoticCJ > Verrkol > Polantaris.
As for island B, it really could be anyone. Just from the votes and the way the conversation is going, I would suspect that Meta is a townie because even if there was a dramatic change in terms of votes-he is locked in as a lynch with a most likely 2/2 mafia situation.
The only benefit is that if we survive tonight, we have another confirmed mafia.
Niernen Wrote:What Kind of evidence could I give that I'm not a pirate? Doesn't really look like anything I can say at this point would change anyone's mind. Looks to me like I'll get lynched, Island A will be down a survivor, and then the remaining survivors should know who the pirate is. Worst case, I get lynched and the last survivors get killed by pirates. If Corn is the investigator (if there are multiple), then that probably means Verrkol is a pirate.
Unfortunately there really isn't much anyone can do, we are all set in our decisions. I do think that there is a second investigator because of the set-up; but unless Meta turns out innocent, Verrkol is safe which leaves both Holypie and Corn in danger. If Meta is mafia it confirms Holypie as mafia, because of the insane cop.
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - Holypie - 2014-06-01
Wait what the hell? If Meta is mafia how does that make me mafia? That doesn't make any sense at all. Why are you assuming Corn is an insane cop? I'm innocent, if I were mafia I would be the worst mafia alive, and drawing ridiculous attention to myself. That would (and is) make(ing) me an instant target for the town. And what do you mean when you say that if Meta is innocent then Corn and I are in danger? Do you mean that it makes us both mafia?
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - ChaoticCJ - 2014-06-01
Holypie Wrote:Wait what the hell? If Meta is mafia how does that make me mafia? That doesn't make any sense at all. Why are you assuming Corn is an insane cop? I'm innocent, if I were mafia I would be the worst mafia alive, and drawing ridiculous attention to myself. That would (and is) make(ing) me an instant target for the town. And what do you mean when you say that if Meta is innocent then Corn and I are in danger? Do you mean that it makes us both mafia?
If Meta is mafia it confirms Corn is insane. This means that Verrkol is innocent and you are mafia. This is one of the reasons I don't understand you voting for Meta.
If Meta is innocent and really the 2nd detective it would be your 3rd confirmed link to an innocent death. It would confirm Corn is mafia and since he confirmed you as innocent leaves you in a bad place. You also semi-role claimed earlier which leaves you with a huge target on your back.
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - Shidoshi - 2014-06-01
Vote count
| Island A - Majority: 3 votes | Island B - Majority: 3 votes |
| No lynch A (0): | No lynch B (0): |
| ChaoticCJ (0): | Corn (0): |
| Niernen (2): Polantaris, VerrKol, | HolyPie (0): |
| Olsi (0): | MetaSeraphim (2): HolyPie, xBTAx, |
| Polantaris (0): | xBTAx (0): |
| VerrKol (0): |
Not voting (5): ChaoticCJ, MetaSeraphim, Olsi, Niernen, Corn,
Day ends at 7pm PST today or when both majorities are reached.
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - Holypie - 2014-06-01
Okay well, whatever happens I think the town is screwed and I'm going to die, so let's see how this plays out. It has been a rather interesting game after revelation this morning (in game time). I don't think I can say anything that I haven't already said, so oh well.
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - Olsi - 2014-06-01
Well here we go Vote A: [Niernen]
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - VerrKol - 2014-06-01
Just confirming Olsi's earlier observation,
TheBirds, MasPan, and y0 were the three pirafia hits and all island B residents.
My vote remains the same. You could have at least made an effort [MENTION=10201]Niernen[/MENTION];
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - Shidoshi - 2014-06-01
End of Day 4
Another day gone by, this time with very heated discussions among the members of each island. In the end, MetaSeraphim and Niernen were appointed to die today.
MetaSeraphim
You are Maryam Madison, a Survivor, you ended up on this goddamned archipelago with others like you. You know there’s an infiltrated group among the survivors plotting your demise in order to steal the treasures on the shipwreck.
Your weapon is your voice and your vote, use them wisely to identify and eliminate the threats to the survivors.
You are one of the survivors and win when all threats to the survivors have been eliminated.
Niernen
You are Zofia Zoe, a Survivor, you ended up on this goddamned archipelago with others like you. You know there’s an infiltrated group among the survivors plotting your demise in order to steal the treasures on the shipwreck.
Your weapon is your voice and your vote, use them wisely to identify and eliminate the threats to the survivors.
You are one of the survivors and win when all threats to the survivors have been eliminated.
As night fell upon the remaining people on the islands, VerrKol and Corn, the remaining pirates, came out of their tents with swords flashing, ready to overpower the remaining survivors.
xBTAx went by their side, but with a different style of clothing and weaponry. Wearing simple rags made out of sewn plants from the isles and carrying a dagger smeared with poison ivy he moved quickly, slashing the throats of survivors who so foolishly believed he was one of them.
Game Over - Pirafia Win
I'll add all roles and role PMs to the first post. Feel free to comment on the game from now.
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - xBTAx - 2014-06-01
I was looking forward to actually using my power, finally. Would have been interesting to see how things went in the morning...
Also, I don't know how to feel about how long it took you guys to recognize that I was also suspicious in the game today (game-wise). Like, you guys went a long while without even mentioning my name because it was so obviously Corn/Meta/Holy and not me at all, or something.
EDIT: Wait, why did my dagger have poison ivy on it? Did I want them to be itchy as they died or something?
EDIT2: I don't know if this was intentional (we noticed that we both were told this early on but didn't think it was worth bringing up) but my PM also included "You may use the name Honey Hermione if anyone asks who you are.", though you didn't include it here.
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - Corn - 2014-06-01
Ha ha ha you guys won't believe I ad-libbed everything.
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - Shidoshi - 2014-06-01
Night actions were largely uneventful. Holypie wasn't able to protect anyone effectively.
I know the town was pretty underpowered when it came to Power Roles, but the mafia had a pretty small group to work with (25% of players) and double-lynching gave the town a lot of power to eliminate mafia through correct scum-hunting.
This is the second time I've run this setup, the recurring thing is that no one changes islands so the Cop is much weaker.
Congrats to the pirafia, a game well played.