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Ask a Bowman Thread. - Milelke - 2008-08-30

A Couple Questions

1. What skill lvl am i suppose to raise AB and Soul Arrow too?

2. Wheres an efficient place to train at lvl 36 (Fast Exp)


Ask a Bowman Thread. - Beaner - 2008-08-30

Milelke Wrote:A Couple Questions

1. What skill lvl am i suppose to raise AB and Soul Arrow too?

2. Wheres an efficient place to train at lvl 36 (Fast Exp)


AB leave at 1. soul arrow max at the end of 2nd job.

2. http://www.southperry.net/forums/showthread.php?t=31


Ask a Bowman Thread. - tzk221 - 2008-08-30

Milelke Wrote:A Couple Questions

1. What skill lvl am i suppose to raise AB and Soul Arrow too?

If AB = Arrow Bomb, then definitely max it.
If AB = Arrow Blow, then you can choose what level you want it to be. Most people leave it at 1.

For Soul Arrow, The most common stopping points are 7, 10, and 20. The only thing that changes when you raise Soul Arrow is the skill duration. 7 is 210 sec (3 min 30 sec) to synchronize with booster. 10 is for 300 sec (5 minutes) to sync with other skills. 20 is the max duration of 600 sec (10 min) if you don't want to rebuff that often. Just play around with it and pick a level that you feel comfortable with.


Ask a Bowman Thread. - FelixTM - 2008-08-30

sumtingverywong Wrote:i have 67 base int lvling up with int gear, was just wondering if it will give me 3 more int to push me to 70 int when lvling up

Again, no. MW adds to your base stats. INT from equipment is additional INT. The only way to increase base INT is to add it with AP when you level up.


Ask a Bowman Thread. - Cyanne - 2008-08-31

Approximately how much dex is equivalent to one weapon attack in terms of damage boost? Does it change, and if so, how? I've heard that dex matters more for an archer than str/luk matters for a warrior/thief, so I just want to confirm this.


Ask a Bowman Thread. - Beaner - 2008-08-31

Cyanne Wrote:Approximately how much dex is equivalent to one weapon attack in terms of damage boost? Does it change, and if so, how? I've heard that dex matters more for an archer than str/luk matters for a warrior/thief, so I just want to confirm this.

too many ifs. just use this
http://sapphire8.webs.com/dexatkcalculator.htm


Ask a Bowman Thread. - tzk221 - 2008-08-31

I don't know the exact formula, but here's a handy dandy calculator: http://sapphire8.webs.com/dexatkcalculator.htm

^Beat me to it. Frown


Ask a Bowman Thread. - Russt - 2008-08-31

Why would it matter more?
It depends on the ratio of weapon attack to AP.
In terms of weapon attack, dexless sins < sins < dexless dits = strless archers (wut) < dits = archers < warriors.
In terms of AP (keeping in mind that secondary stat adds some fraction proportional to primary stat), sins = dits < archers = warriors < dexless sins < dexless dits.
So if you take a ratio of AP/weapon attack:
dits = warriors < archers < dexless dits < strless archers < sins < dexless sins.
In terms of how much attack is worth.

Yes, this did involve quite a few generalizations, but it's roughly how it should be. The more accurate way is to say "too many ifs" like Carlos did and just use the calculator.


Ask a Bowman Thread. - Cyanne - 2008-08-31

Thanks for the helpful link =]


Ask a Bowman Thread. - Technolink - 2008-09-01

Sap, you should slap and ad on your webpage and make some money


Ask a Bowman Thread. - Russt - 2008-09-01

Lawl. Maybe I ought to... if I knew how.

I don't get enough traffic, though. Sum should do it for his damage range site. He's gotten like 10k page views, right?


Ask a Bowman Thread. - Styx - 2008-09-11

What is a good build for a ranger?

im looking for a build thats fastest 70 - 120
money doesnt matter


Ask a Bowman Thread. - Kevvl - 2008-09-12

Speed wise? Well, there's no 'fastest' build. At 70, you make the choice between AR and Strafe. From what I've seen, AR is faster from 72~80 or so, while Strafe is faster 80~90 (After which both builds pretty much merge). With Typhons out, that may have changed, although Typhons is a VERY difficult walk.

There really is no solid answer to that question. Try checking a skill guide, and finding the particular build you like best. If you train alot, it won't matter which you choose.


Ask a Bowman Thread. - Styx - 2008-09-12

Kevvl Wrote:Speed wise? Well, there's no 'fastest' build. At 70, you make the choice between AR and Strafe. From what I've seen, AR is faster from 72~80 or so, while Strafe is faster 80~90 (After which both builds pretty much merge). With Typhons out, that may have changed, although Typhons is a VERY difficult walk.

There really is no solid answer to that question. Try checking a skill guide, and finding the particular build you like best. If you train alot, it won't matter which you choose.

the problem is, i cant find any guides above 1-70


Ask a Bowman Thread. - Kevvl - 2008-09-12

Biggrin

Click teh Smiley


Ask a Bowman Thread. - Russt - 2008-09-13

Strafe
6 Puppet
5 MB
Arrow Rain

Run along.


Ask a Bowman Thread. - Styx - 2008-09-13

also, i know theres a where to train thread, but im iffy about the places it lists.

could you give me any advice where to train?

my damage range is 258 ~ 455 lvl 47.


Ask a Bowman Thread. - Kevvl - 2008-09-14

STDs, or Monkey Forest would be good for you. The spots in the training guide are all very good, don't ignore them.


Ask a Bowman Thread. - psychopat - 2008-09-15

Newties aren't very good for me - lack of pet to loot makes it a pure meso loss, lack of free maps, 1hko for nest golems, etc. That being said, I've never found anywhere else that made eagle worthwhile. I also took FA several years ago in 2nd job, so now I'm considering a 10 thrust, 15 eagle, 21 blizzard, max everything else build while dumping the leftover points into booster and/or SA.

How useful is eagle once you get frostprey? I already pretty much never train on things that aren't freezable (except sharks, but eagle's completely unneeded there...) Is there any serious drawback to this build that I'm not seeing? Also, no, I'm not resetting points out of FA to fix it that way instead. If I had NX, I'd HP wash way before I bothered with that.


Ask a Bowman Thread. - Rei - 2008-09-15

psychopat Wrote:Newties aren't very good for me - lack of pet to loot makes it a pure meso loss, lack of free maps, 1hko for nest golems, etc. That being said, I've never found anywhere else that made eagle worthwhile. I also took FA several years ago in 2nd job, so now I'm considering a 10 thrust, 15 eagle, 21 blizzard, max everything else build while dumping the leftover points into booster and/or SA.

How useful is eagle once you get frostprey? I already pretty much never train on things that aren't freezable (except sharks, but eagle's completely unneeded there...) Is there any serious drawback to this build that I'm not seeing? Also, no, I'm not resetting points out of FA to fix it that way instead. If I had NX, I'd HP wash way before I bothered with that.

Did everyone forget about those little Gobies?
You can't expect much when you're at a map where 13x+ characters benefit more there.
Anyway, your build is fine. I have 21 Eagle and 9 Thrust and I'd probably take points out of Eagle to put into Thrust or max Blizzard for the tiny amount of extra damage.

Lv1 Frostprey makes Eagle completely useless. Only time you'd think of summoning Eagle is if you're at a place with unfreezable monsters. Which basically never happens. Or doesn't happen enough to make it worthwhile.