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[RED] Archer Skill Builds - Locked - 2011-10-04
JoeTang Wrote:Everyone knows avoid is garbage.
EXCUSE ME BUT I LIEK NVR GET HIT.
KTHX.
[RED] Archer Skill Builds - Punch - 2011-10-04
I constantly see Archer's LOWER then me with Sharp Eyes or worse.. Maxed Sharp Eyes..
And they're like, loludunthav?
And I always have to explain to them they're doing it wrong >_>
[RED] Archer Skill Builds - Bribery - 2011-10-04
I will definitely be maxing Sharp Eyes before Spirit Link. SE adds a bit more damage solo and is obviously superior in a party. The 40% HP boost is nice, but it isn't necessary that early.
Pre-Ascension, Archers only had +10% HP from Marksmanship and they were fine. Level 1 Spirit Link gives +11% HP which is already better than the old Marksmanship. I don't see why an extra 29% HP should take priority over one of the better party buffs in the game, especially if you have Decent HB.
[RED] Archer Skill Builds - Locked - 2011-10-04
Bribery Wrote:I will definitely be maxing Sharp Eyes before Spirit Link. SE adds a bit more damage solo and is obviously superior in a party. The 40% HP boost is nice, but it isn't necessary that early.
Pre-Ascension, Archers only had +10% HP from Marksmanship and they were fine. Level 1 Spirit Link gives +11% HP which is already better than the old Marksmanship. I don't see why an extra 29% HP should take priority over one of the better party buffs in the game, especially if you have Decent HB.
+15% total damage @_@
Why do people always ignore the 1.15x increase to your ENTIRE RANGE.
[RED] Archer Skill Builds - Bribery - 2011-10-04
Locked Wrote:+15% total damage @_@
Why do people always ignore the 1.15x increase to your ENTIRE RANGE.
It's not like SE isn't increasing your damage too. If SE does indeed provide roughly the same damage boost, I see no reason not to max it before SL, unless you always party with another Archer that has max SE or are really starved for HP.
JoeTang Wrote:SE gives a very insignificant damage boost over Spirit Link (0.2%). If you really want to be someone's peach that badly, you can max it. Otherwise, be self-serving and max the skill that gives the same damage boost but also increases your HP and defense.
If you already have some +Total Damage% potential, in theory, SE would give a bigger damage boost I believe.
[RED] Archer Skill Builds - SnipedByYou - 2011-10-05
I'm confused with all the talk of focus... there is no focus anymore....
[RED] Archer Skill Builds - Punch - 2011-10-05
I don't know who to trust..
So I just added Spirit Link anyways.. cus I die too much.. HP is <3
[RED] Archer Skill Builds - thinbear - 2011-10-07
For MM only: just to add Piercing tends to not relying on SE; if you training with PA a lot, Spirit Link is better;
I have a question here... what if the min crit-dmg is higher than the max crit-dmg?
ie, max MMboost + DB's crit skill(forgot the name) 15%+20%= 35% ->
so it would become 1.5x-1.5x or 1.55x-1.55x?
just curious, not that important....
[RED] Archer Skill Builds - raizoo - 2011-10-07
thinbear Wrote:I have a question here... what if the min crit-dmg is higher than the max crit-dmg?Thorns changed and it isn't even a party skill anymore. <:
ie, max MMboost + DB's crit skill(forgot the name) 15%+20%= 35% ->
so it would become 1.5x-1.5x or 1.55x-1.55x?
just curious, not that important....
[RED] Archer Skill Builds - SnipedByYou - 2011-10-07
Could i get some advice? I have 1 Jump 1 Hawk 1 Bomb arrow and 10 Mastery I'm level 36 or 37 ( I have not been on in a few days because of school) Is this okay or did I mess up? I have 1 less str then I am supposed to due to my ring which is +1 everything. Also I have a lvl 25 hat with 1% dex pot. Is that better than Amdorias hat which is +12dex (in the long run because atm the amdorias hat is better and I know that).
Any tips on where to train? What equips i should use etc
[RED] Archer Skill Builds - InfiniteFusion - 2011-10-07
SnipedByYou Wrote:Could i get some advice? I have 1 Jump 1 Hawk 1 Bomb arrow and 10 Mastery I'm level 36 or 37 ( I have not been on in a few days because of school) Is this okay or did I mess up? I have 1 less str then I am supposed to due to my ring which is +1 everything. Also I have a lvl 25 hat with 1% dex pot. Is that better than Amdorias hat which is +12dex (in the long run because atm the amdorias hat is better and I know that).
Any tips on where to train? What equips i should use etc
For your question about your hat, the +12 dex hat will always be far superior. Even if you had 1000 dex (in your mid to late level 100s), the hat would only add 10 dex.
Your build isn't irreparably messed up. I suggest adding 6 points into booster (for 1 min timer) and then finishing off mastery.
[RED] Archer Skill Builds - SnipedByYou - 2011-10-08
Thanks Infinite Fusion, but I made a mistake I'm lvl 34 almost 35... Also why not max strafe? It doesn't look like that bad of a skill, it looks to me to be better than mortal blow and puppet.
[RED] Archer Skill Builds - Locked - 2011-10-08
SnipedByYou Wrote:Thanks Infinite Fusion, but I made a mistake I'm lvl 34 almost 35... Also why not max strafe? It doesn't look like that bad of a skill, it looks to me to be better than mortal blow and puppet.
Hurricane replaces it.
[RED] Archer Skill Builds - Luxeraph - 2011-10-08
Locked Wrote:Hurricane replaces it.
Plus you never get to use it with Inferno/AR goodness, since you're not going to be doing much 1vs1 till 4th job.
[RED] Archer Skill Builds - SnipedByYou - 2011-10-08
Luxeraph Wrote:Plus you never get to use it with Inferno/AR goodness, since you're not going to be doing much 1vs1 till 4th job.
I love arrow rain but I never did like inferno :p lol. So should I or shouldn't I max hurricane?
[RED] Archer Skill Builds - Luxeraph - 2011-10-08
SnipedByYou Wrote:I love arrow rain but I never did like inferno :p lol. So should I or shouldn't I max hurricane?
I guess you meant strafe since not maxing hurricane, can't find words to describe it.
If you ask me I think is better to max 1st and 2nd job skills with the points you would have used on strafe (and I actually did but only 2nd job), since you can only use those on balrog.
[RED] Archer Skill Builds - JoeTang - 2011-10-09
Luxeraph Wrote:I guess you meant strafe since not maxing hurricane, can't find words to describe it.
If you ask me I think is better to max 1st and 2nd job skills with the points you would have used on strafe (and I actually did but only 2nd job), since you can only use those on balrog.
dat maxed hawk
[RED] Archer Skill Builds - yo72 - 2011-10-12
So why is AFA maxed first I still feel as if BE is a better skill adds more atk and adds more mastery can some1 explain why I should max AFA first?
[RED] Archer Skill Builds - CrazyForDex - 2011-10-12
yo72 Wrote:So why is AFA maxed first I still feel as if BE is a better skill adds more atk and adds more mastery can some1 explain why I should max AFA first?
Uh idk who said to max AFA first o.o I'd do something like this:
lvl 120: 1 hurricane, 1 ep, 1 spirit link
max be
max afa
max spirit link
max se?
max hurricane, etc
[RED] Archer Skill Builds - JoeTang - 2011-10-12
AFA increases your Hurricane DPS by 1.377x. Bow Expert increases your DPS by 1.11x. Unless you have less than 60 ATK or you train exclusively with Inferno (retarded), AFA is better.