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Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - modular - 2011-01-28

MuscleWizard Wrote:What skills does final attack process with?

Does it just add extra damage to some of your hits?

Because I've noticed with it up, I've been getting some ridiculous crits, like, 11k at level 54 with 21 soul blade.
I somewhat refuse to believe that my character is actually that strong.

Also, should I leave soul blade at 21 and max everything else for 2nd job?

I've got max mastery, max rage, 21 soul blade, max soul rush, 1 final attack and some on booster.

Should I do final attack or booster first?

i wasnt able to get an FA proc on soul driver. soul blade, brandish, coma, powerstrike, and slash blast all proc it. the soul blade proc is a little odd, you hafta be right next to the monster like you are for any of the other attacks.

i too have 21 soul blade at 120.

i dont really go bossing on second jobs, which is where FA really shines. if you are dojoing for levels, fa -> booster. otherwise, get enough booster that you actually like the timer instead of just deal with it (be that max, 16, 12, 9, 6... whatever) then max FA.

keep in mind, booster is always gonna be -2 speed no matter how much you have in it. 1hkoing with soul blade will almost always make FA useless.

Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - WillDaSnail - 2011-02-24

Sorry for bumping this old thread...but how would you guys build your Dawn Warriors? Notably 2nd and 3rd jobs?

Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - ghostofhalo - 2011-02-24

WillDaSnail Wrote:Sorry for bumping this old thread...but how would you guys build your Dawn Warriors? Notably 2nd and 3rd jobs?
The build is fairly the same since before BB. The only notable difference is that Brandish is far more useless right now. If you still need an order:
 Rough Build Order


Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - Dark Link - 2011-02-24

2nd job, I just followed the standard 19 mastery, 6 booster, max soul blade, then wing it from there lol. I left Booster unmaxed at 11 when I hit 70, as you max it later on, but it's probably strongly recommended to leave FA unmaxed as it's instantly useless the second you hit 3rd job.
As for 3rd job, all you have to do is max Soul Driver -> Combo Attack -> Soul Charge and you're set for life until 120. SD is so OP at the moment that it's the only skill you'll ever use.

Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - WillDaSnail - 2011-02-24

Just curious, why do you guys not max Booster and FA for DWs? :f6:

Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - Stereo - 2011-02-24

Unless my calculations are wrong, Soul Charge gives better damage even on neutral targets compared to regular Combo now. Except the 1st point of Combo anyway (longer cast time + 3% boost makes it better than 1 point in Soul Charge, which is only 1%)

So I went Driver > 1 Combo > max Soul Charge. Then I'll do max Combo, then save for Brandish/ACA.

Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - WillDaSnail - 2011-02-24

Stereo Wrote:Unless my calculations are wrong, Soul Charge gives better damage even on neutral targets compared to regular Combo now. Except the 1st point of Combo anyway (longer cast time + 3% boost makes it better than 1 point in Soul Charge, which is only 1%)

So I went Driver > 1 Combo > max Soul Charge. Then I'll do max Combo, then save for Brandish/ACA.

So what I'm getting from you (and other people that are posting in this thread), Soul Driver is so OP that maxing it is a must to level really fast?

Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - Stereo - 2011-02-24

Yes, driver is kinda OP.

Level 80 DW > 13k x 4, 20k x 4 on holy targets. And it hits up to 8, all over the map...

It is not an exaggeration to say I was leveling in 10 minutes on 1x exp from 70-80.

Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - WillDaSnail - 2011-02-24

Stereo Wrote:Yes, driver is kinda OP.

Level 80 DW > 13k x 4, 20k x 4 on holy targets. And it hits up to 8, all over the map...

It is not an exaggeration to say I was leveling in 10 minutes on 1x exp from 70-80.

I can now imagine that with Golden Temple. Rolleyes

Is it OK to leave Soul Blade at 21 right before 3rd job advancement? Or actually, max everything in 2nd job except FA (leave it at 21)? Is that better? And upon 2nd job advancement, get Soul Blade to 21 (hits 5 monsters), then work on Mastery, Booster, and Rage?

Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - Stereo - 2011-02-24

I actually KSed a few of those hacking wild hunters out of the Jesters map, cause Driver was hogging all the kills and their bombs couldn't get anything. It's insane.

Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - JPTheMonkey - 2011-02-24

Personally, at second job, I left FA and booster unmaxed (25/16 respectively) and maxed Rage. At 21 FA or so, you have the same rate as an adventurer to have it happen. Then during 3rd job, as I made the guy pre-BB, I started as 1 driver, 1 combo, max SC but when BB occured, I added 15 to BR and then maxed driver, but seeing as BR is now 100, that part is now useless. After driver, I maxed Combo, and then Soul Charge. Then, I finished BR and saved for ACA. After that, I maxed Panic then Coma, and plan to finish booster and FA with the remaining SP.

Can't say I did 600% an hr but I did 80-90 in a day with lots of breaks in between. I've been pulling 1 level every hour or so since. Did zarms from 110-116 (roughly 60-90% each run depending on 1.2x and dc luck and whether I had HS or not) and plan to do temple till 120.

Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - Dark Link - 2011-02-24

WillDaSnail Wrote:I can now imagine that with Golden Temple. Rolleyes

Is it OK to leave Soul Blade at 21 right before 3rd job advancement? Or actually, max everything in 2nd job except FA (leave it at 21)? Is that better? And upon 2nd job advancement, get Soul Blade to 21 (hits 5 monsters), then work on Mastery, Booster, and Rage?

Pretty much. FA is utterly useless as it's the last skill you put SP into and the second you get points into Soul Driver, FA becomes useless, because it doesn't proc off SD. What I did was 19 Mastery -> 6 Booster -> max Soul Blade -> Soul Rush -> Rage -> Max Mastery -> Max FA, but replace FA with Booster.

Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - WillDaSnail - 2011-02-24

Dark Link Wrote:Pretty much. FA is utterly useless as it's the last skill you put SP into and the second you get points into Soul Driver, FA becomes useless, because it doesn't proc off SD. What I did was 19 Mastery -> 6 Booster -> max Soul Blade -> Soul Rush -> Rage -> Max Mastery -> Max FA, but replace FA with Booster.

Eh, maybe I'll just max everything out and cap FA at 21 right before I advance to 3rd job.

Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - WillDaSnail - 2011-02-28

Sorry for double posting but...

What's a good, cheap end-game weapon for a DW? I'm thinking a 60%'d Devil's Sunrise will be enough for the job.

Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - Locked - 2011-02-28

WillDaSnail Wrote:Sorry for double posting but...

What's a good, cheap end-game weapon for a DW? I'm thinking a 60%'d Devil's Sunrise will be enough for the job.

Soul Driver let's you 1-hit anything regardless of how weak your weapon is. So if you want to bust out a cheap alternative, I'd go with more speed. So I'm taking up Japanese map as a candidate for that. You could even go to Leben Mine and hunt for a Red Katana there, I typically find one there in about 5 minutes inside, and scroll it with 60%s.

Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - Dark Link - 2011-02-28

Locked Wrote:Soul Driver let's you 1-hit anything regardless of how weak your weapon is. So if you want to bust out a cheap alternative, I'd go with more speed. So I'm taking up Japanese map as a candidate for that. You could even go to Leben Mine and hunt for a Red Katana there, I typically find one there in about 5 minutes inside, and scroll it with 60%s.

It's similar to what I did for my DW. I used a 58atk clean Lionheart sword and just stacked my damage with other gear. Spamming SD at an extreme speed with high damage gear makes it ridiculously stupid.

Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - WillDaSnail - 2011-02-28

Locked Wrote:Soul Driver let's you 1-hit anything regardless of how weak your weapon is. So if you want to bust out a cheap alternative, I'd go with more speed. So I'm taking up Japanese map as a candidate for that. You could even go to Leben Mine and hunt for a Red Katana there, I typically find one there in about 5 minutes inside, and scroll it with 60%s.

I do have a well-scrolled Japanese Sword on me.

Soul Driver is impacted by the weapon speed? :f6:

Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - FoolsLove - 2011-02-28

WillDaSnail Wrote:I do have a well-scrolled Japanese Sword on me.

Soul Driver is impacted by the weapon speed? :f6:

Yes

Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - WillDaSnail - 2011-02-28

FoolsLove Wrote:Yes

I see..hm I'll enjoy 20 levels of steroided Soul Driver fun then. ;D

Ask a Soul Master/Dawn Warrior Thread - iThrow13 - 2011-03-02

My rough DW lol.

2nd job
5 mastery
6 booster
max mastery
max soul blade
max rage
max soul rush
max booster
21 Final Attack.

3rd job

1 soul driver 1 combo 1 soul charge
max driver
max combo
max soul charge
with soul charge and combo, you can alternate to whichever you prefer the difference isn't that big
save for brandish
brandish
save for advanced combo
advanced combo
mp recovery
panic and coma are essentially useless with soul driver and you wont ever use them, therefore get mp recovery because you will essentially remove any mp pot costs.