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Crooked Hillary! - Flonne - 2016-11-16
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Crooked Hillary! - Satellite - 2016-11-16
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Looking at the amount of dislikes people like Thunderf00t get over their Brexit/Trump videos, I'm starting to realize that many of the "gamergaters" or "anti-feminists" weren't ever there for the truth but simply because the facts happened to line up with their ideology. Now when the facts don't line up with what they read in their Breitbart/Infowars echo chamber, they all act like triggered crybabies, just like the "SJW feminist globalist leftists" that they criticize.
It's frightening to realize how much of the population can be categorized as "feels over facts"-people. Because it means that easy populism will continue to appeal to the crowds time and time again, no matter how much the history books will prove against it.
Crooked Hillary! - Flonne - 2016-11-16
Satellite Wrote:Looking at the amount of dislikes people like Thunderf00t get over their Brexit/Trump videos, I'm starting to realize that many of the "gamergaters" or "anti-feminists" weren't ever there for the truth but simply because the facts happened to line up with their ideology. Now when the facts don't line up with what they read in their Breitbart/Infowars echo chamber, they all act like triggered crybabies, just like the "SJW feminist globalist leftists" that they criticize.
It's frightening to realize how much of the population can be categorized as "feels over facts"-people. Because it means that easy populism will continue to appeal to the crowds time and time again, no matter how much the history books will prove against it.
Looks more like thunderfoot drank the koolaid, Trump actually posted on twitter last night saying most of the pomegranate the MSM is currently saying about him is not actually what is happening. Which is to be expected, they will continue biting his heels for the next 8 years.
He has actually already REMOVED all lobbyists from his transition team.
His actual words were that HE wasn't going to prosecute her; that doesn't stop anyone on his team from doing so, all he has to do is not block it with a presidental order; it gives him plausible deniability. He is currently doing the presidential thing by trying to close the divide; it's not like he isn't still going to DO all the things he said he would, but right now he's more focused on trying to stop the retarded SJWs from rioting all over the country before it escalates and people just start killing them out of frustration, which has already begun happening specifically with the protestors blocking highways, more and more people are just fucking running the assholes down and good for them for doing so. At this point I actually stopped watching the video, but more because he is a bit whiny and his voice is grating than that it was "triggering" me in any way.
People downvoted that particular video because it was clear he hadn't researched any of the facts and "drank the koolaid", he was basing his facts on the fiction that the media is currently spouting and that is a fundamental error. Just because a person has some decent videos does not automatically mean ALL of their videos will be good, he is just being reactionary and from the comments and dislikes, people are clearly calling him out on that. Personally, I only watch him when he is a guest on Sargon, so it is just my assumption that he has some good videos based on the people who have some respect for him, I don't actually know if I agree with anything he says because I don't watch his videos, so maybe they are all like this one. Sargon is the only person I really watch on youtube, mainly because he has some wit, is unapologetically condescending but good enough at BEING condescending that most people he interviews don't even realize he is being condescending, and doesn't have a whiny voice like 99% of the people on youtube do.
Crooked Hillary! - Marksman Bryan - 2016-11-17
How are you guys justifying Bannon?
Crooked Hillary! - Flonne - 2016-11-17
Marksman Bryan Wrote:How are you guys justifying Bannon?
Honestly, I'd never even heard of him before a couple weeks ago. I know nothing of what he has done and thus cannot give an opinion on him. I don't dismiss him offhand for running Breitbart though, they aren't anywhere near as bad as people make them out to be. They aren't even close to infowars on the scale of insanity.
And that is the only thing I saw as legitimately stupid that Trump has done since becoming president-elect in relation to him meeting with "alt-right" spokespeople (by the way, I think that term is retarded as pineapple) was him talking with Alex Jones, he doesn't want that man anywhere near his presidency regardless of whether he was supported by him, I watched a segment of Alex Jones' 52 hour infowars livestream during the election results and there was some pretty crazy pomegranate casually thrown around on there, crazy even to me, and I'm sure by now you all think I have a nearly limitless tolerance/acceptance of crazy conspiracy theories. The man runs a line of ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT HEALTH PRODUCTS off of his streams; some testosterone supplement that he all but claims makes you superhuman, a super water filter to "remove all the chemicals the government is poisoning us with", 1 year supplies of rations for the coming apocalypse, pomegranate like that.
As to his picks overall so far for his cabinet, I'm not...super impressed. I know it was too much to hope for Ron Paul as Sec. of Treasury, that would have been an "all the stars align just for me" moment, but I'm not sure about big bankers being a good idea, particularly not one that worked for Soros that recently. I don't know enough about any of the most likely potential Sec. of States other than Giuliani, who I think is both likely given his support of Trump and probably a good choice on top of that. I just, barely recognize any of these people for any of the positions, but I pretty much expected that, I only looked into Mnuchin because I think the quality of the Sec. of Treasury is one of our current biggest concerns, and from what I see of him I don't like him.
Crooked Hillary! - Justin - 2016-11-17
Marksman Bryan Wrote:How are you guys justifying Bannon?
I'm not, personally - very stupid pick, IMO. Trump needs to play his hand very carefully from this point forward, and this was definitely a bad move.
Crooked Hillary! - xparasite9 - 2016-11-17
Marksman Bryan Wrote:How are you guys justifying Bannon?
What is there to "justify"? The ADL has retracted its claim.
Crooked Hillary! - Satellite - 2016-11-19
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http://abcnews.go.com/US/vice-president-elect-mike-pence-greeted-boos-cheers/story?id=43649490
Quote: "I see you walking out but I hope you will hear us," Dixon said. "Nothing to boo here, ladies and gentlemen, there's nothing to boo here ... We're all sharing a story of love. We welcome you, and we truly thank you for joining us here at 'Hamilton: An American Musical' -- we really do.
Dixon continued, "We are the diverse America who are alarmed and anxious that your new administration will not protect us, our planet, our children, our parents, or defend us and uphold our inalienable rights, sir. But we truly hope this show has inspired you to uphold our American values, and work on behalf of all of us."
Trumpologic: Asking to work on behalf of all Americans is harassment, insulting minorities and women isn't.
Crooked Hillary! - Flonne - 2016-11-19
Satellite Wrote:Trumpologic: Asking to work on behalf of all Americans is harassment, insulting minorities and women isn't.
I'm sorry, I was under the impression that, when you go to the theatre, it is the job of the workers in the show to DO that fucking job and not to virtue signal or grandstand on their shitty political opinions, that their job was to do their fucking show, take a bow, walk off stage, and leave politics out of it. The same reason that the football players refusing to stand for the national anthem are a bunch of massively overpaid clowns that need to grow up and do their jobs without acting like fucking babies every time things don't go their way. The same can DEFINITELY be said for stand-up comedians, as they are just about the worst about forgetting that their ONLY FUCKING JOB is to be funny, and when they start getting political and losing that, which almost exclusively happens regardless of which way they try to lean it even when they try to implement it into their routine, they are no longer doing their job and are essentially worthless not only to the people paying to see them but to their career field as a whole. It's about time they figured out nobody cares what they think and that they shouldn't be surprised when they start losing business when they are no longer doing their job properly. People need to start getting fired for expressing opinions on politics when it is none of their goddamn business to do so; we are already halfway there, every time anyone makes an even remotely conservative statement they are sent to the guillotine socially, the only exception I can think of that actually got a boost in business was Chik-Fil-A and I still don't agree with what they did; now it needs to start happening to liberals too, then we won't have to put up with that pomegranate in literally every aspect of our lives.
The people booing were barely better, but they are ignorant sheep that follow the leader, they can't do anything for themselves and need to look to someone else to start a movement, and when that movement is negative (as it always becomes these days) they do shitty things for reasons they don't even understand, they are too dumb to figure out how to act individually. At least they didn't start a fucking riot again.
Crooked Hillary! - Marksman Bryan - 2016-11-19
Treating everyone with equal respect isn't a political opinion.
Crooked Hillary! - xparasite9 - 2016-11-19
singling out an audience member is always bad form
Marksman Bryan Wrote:Treating everyone with equal respect isn't a political opinion.but insinuating that a leader won't do so is.
You're wanting Trump to "treat everyone with equal respect", which is what he has always done, to a fault. What you really want is "treat women and minorities with kid gloves on".
Who is the racist in this scenario?
Crooked Hillary! - Satellite - 2016-11-19
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Well, the people who thought Trump might pardon Assange for Wikileaks enormous help during the election were badly mistaken. The thought of this guy running the CIA is very frightening. If he wants whistleblowers executed, are they gonna stop there?
Flonne Wrote:I'm sorry, I was under the impression that, when you go to the theatre, it is the job of the workers in the show to DO that pineappleing job and not to virtue signal or grandstand on their pomegranatety political opinions, that their job was to do their pineappleing show, take a bow, walk off stage, and leave politics out of it. The same reason that the football players refusing to stand for the national anthem are a bunch of massively overpaid clowns that need to grow up and do their jobs without acting like pineappleing babies every time things don't go their way. The same can DEFINITELY be said for stand-up comedians, as they are just about the worst about forgetting that their ONLY pineappleING JOB is to be funny, and when they start getting political and losing that, which almost exclusively happens regardless of which way they try to lean it even when they try to implement it into their routine, they are no longer doing their job and are essentially worthless not only to the people paying to see them but to their career field as a whole. It's about time they figured out nobody cares what they think and that they shouldn't be surprised when they start losing business when they are no longer doing their job properly. People need to start getting fired for expressing opinions on politics when it is none of their goddamn business to do so; we are already halfway there, every time anyone makes an even remotely conservative statement they are sent to the guillotine socially, the only exception I can think of that actually got a boost in business was Chik-Fil-A and I still don't agree with what they did; now it needs to start happening to liberals too, then we won't have to put up with that pomegranate in literally every aspect of our lives.I'm sorry, I was under the impression that, there's something called the 1st amendment in the constitution of United States. They're as free to express their opinion as you're to walk out in protest and start boycotting them. As for comedians, they make fun of all kinds of people... celebrities, cultures, politicians, their audience etc. If you're easily offended, comedy isn't for you.
The people booing were barely better, but they are ignorant sheep that follow the leader, they can't do anything for themselves and need to look to someone else to start a movement, and when that movement is negative (as it always becomes these days) they do pomegranatety things for reasons they don't even understand, they are too dumb to figure out how to act individually. At least they didn't start a pineappleing riot again.
Crooked Hillary! - xparasite9 - 2016-11-19
Satellite Wrote:I'm sorry, I was under the impression that, there's something called the 1st amendment in the constitution of United States. They're as free to express their opinion as you're to walk out in protest and start boycotting them. As for comedians, they make fun of all kinds of people... celebrities, cultures, politicians, their audience etc. If you're easily offended, comedy isn't for you.
This was not a stand-up comedy routine.
It was Hamilton: a rap-umentary on stage.
I can understand why you would be defending such actions whilst being under the mistaken impression that it was comedians.
Crooked Hillary! - Flonne - 2016-11-19
Marksman Bryan Wrote:Treating everyone with equal respect isn't a political opinion.
Treating everyone with a basic level of courtesy until they have proven that they don't deserve it? Sure. Treating everyone with respect without even knowing who they are? Absolutely not. Respect should be both given when earned and taken away when necessary, but never used as a "base" method of dealing with everyone you meet. Forcing everyone to treat everyone with full blown respect for no reason is why we have this entitled generation to begin with, you have to work years diligently to earn real respect, the only "respect" someone I don't know earns is basic common courtesy. I'm not going to slam a door in the face of a person I have never met, I will hold it open for them, I will smile even if I don't particularly care who they are and don't know if I will ever see them again because that's common decency. You can, of course, lose the right to basic courtesy, but I'm still not going to attack or kill a person unless it's in defense of life, that's something a level below courtesy but above outright hatred that should be applied to everyone regardless of how much of a scumbag they are.
Assuming this was a response to me, I don't actually know how it applies to my previous post, though, I said nothing about respect, unless you think even when these people are making complete asses of themselves they still deserve it, in which case, no, they do not, they do not even maintain the right to common courtesy after the clown show they've been putting on particularly in the past decade. Very few among the famous of any career have ever earned my respect, they (almost) always turn out to be fake, the character traits that are almost required in order to enjoy the spotlight are very narcissistic and self serving. And before you even ask, no, I do not particularly respect Trump, but he was the best choice given to me.
Crooked Hillary! - Satellite - 2016-11-19
xparasite9 Wrote:This was not a stand-up comedy routine.I'm perfectly aware it wasn't stand up. If you would read the post I quoted, you would notice that Flonne mentioned stand up in his post.
It was Hamilton: a rap-umentary on stage.
I can understand why you would be defending such actions whilst being under the mistaken impression that it was comedians.
Crooked Hillary! - Flonne - 2016-11-20
Satellite Wrote:I'm perfectly aware it wasn't stand up. If you would read the post I quoted, you would notice that Flonne mentioned stand up in his post.
I care that they aren't doing their job, and more importantly, that they are are abusing their position where a lot of people can listen to their pomegranate to spout off their own personal beliefs when it isn't their place to do so. It's a comedians job to be funny, if they aren't, then they are worthless as a comedian and should find a new job. If they want to do it as a sidebar that has nothing to do with comedy on twitter, fine, let them pomegranatepost on twitter, but selling it as being "ironically funny" or "tongue in cheek" is not acceptable. The very worst are the late night "comedy pundits", who sell lies as truths, and when approached on the fact, simply say "it's a comedy show bro, I wasn't being serious", then the next night going back to saying the same pomegranate. It's like watching the news but with even less basis in reality, and that shouldn't even be pineappleing possible. Luckily, those have gotten so bad that even their own target audience no longer wants to see the pomegranate, though they will still hop on twitter and call everyone racist for allowing Larry Wilmore to be cancelled, as I am sure they will do as well for Trevor Noah once he is too, his viewership has been falling like a rock and the only reason he is even still on is because Comedy Central is so afraid of the backlash of cancelling two black "comedians" this close together.
Crooked Hillary! - Satellite - 2016-11-20
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Nvm, Trump actually agrees with his CIA pick. Funny thing about fascists is, they support whistleblowers when they work in their favor but if not, they want them executed.
Crooked Hillary! - KhainiWest - 2016-11-20
Satellite Wrote:Nvm, Trump actually agrees with his CIA pick. Funny thing about fascists is, they support whistleblowers when they work in their favor but if not, they want them executed.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jul/2/donald-trump-edward-snowden-kill-traitor/
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Crooked Hillary! - xparasite9 - 2016-11-20
There's whistleblowing, and then there's stealing classified documents and handing them over to foreign entities.
DNC/Podesta leaks weren't classified information, so Assange isn't in the wrong.
Crooked Hillary! - Flonne - 2016-11-20
xparasite9 Wrote:There's whistleblowing, and then there's stealing classified documents and handing them over to foreign entities.
DNC/Podesta leaks weren't classified information, so Assange isn't in the wrong.
That's a stretch; morally he is doing the right thing but from a legal standpoint he is definitely breaking the law, and there are by the FBIs own admission classified and even top secret documents in the emails.