Holypie Wrote:I'm just kidding, although...



OH DAMN CAKES IS TOWN AND MAFIA!?!?!?

MasPan Wrote:Or neutral.

Olsi Wrote:I was in no way jumping to conclusions, polantaris stated that it might block him in the future and I dont believe an ability which could potentially block people multiple turns is very town like, it seems more fitted for mafia, paralyze a bunch of people and have them crippled. Your vote on me is extremely weak, I've been on Luv's case since yesterday and he seems more suspicious now with his power explained and Polantaris confirming it does last multiple turns. So VerrKol; I ask, what are you gonna do? The multiple turn roleblock is true, does that seem like a town ability to you?

The fact that youre defending Luv BLINDLY and ignoring things he has said/done because you "cant understand him" makes me question your innocence.

Hypermug Wrote:I feel like what you/other people considering that option is essentially this;"The mafia tried to kill Hypermug, therefore he is mafia." It just doesn't make sense to me.

MasPan Wrote:Or neutral.

CakesXD Wrote:Nah, I'm definitely Town and Mafia. Only way I'll win is if everybody dies.

​And with that, I'm going to take a nap.

Holypie Wrote:Told you so, Mas. Also the only way for Cakes to win is if town wins and then he kills himself, winning with town, or if the mafia has majority and then he kills himself. BAM. Best role.

MasPan Wrote:[COLOR="#cc8899"]
Obviously he's Electrode and will use Explosion to kill us all.[/COLOR]

VerrKol Wrote:The dual mafia theory would go something like this. Cakesxd and you are both mafia. Mafia wants to make themselves seem innocent. Cakes completely fabricates the unfulfilled compulsion to attack you. This makes both him and you appear innocent, but short of the controller coming forward, there is no way for anyone else to verify or disprove what happened. CakesXD; Maybe I missed it somewhere, but do you have any idea why it failed? Did you attempt to use an ability last night and if so can it target others? The only thing suspicious about this is that we already had target swapper revealed and there has been no indication about why it failed.

CakesXD Wrote:But isn't it interesting that nothing happened? This implies that either A) my ability cannot target someone, B) I have a late-activating ability or C) I'm just a big, fat, lying Mafioso.

meowmixx Wrote:@Kyrastri; yay i love reading your theories wen i wake up <3. also i hate grass tbh, im more of an ice, psychic, ghost chick.
and my move is a gen 2 move so its not all gen 1 im guessin

editted: PM cleared things up with tht so dont mind it at all, hence the strike.

CakesXD Wrote:-laughs maniacally-

Right now, I'm thinking at least Match Theory is in place. Physical/Special resistance is a bit Farfetch'd (heh).

MetaSeraphim Wrote:Naturally? Yes.

Hypermug Wrote:Do you mind expanding on this? As I already said earlier, I agree that what Cakes said clears nothing, but I don't agree with the sentiment that it leaves me looking more suspicious. I didn't receive any notice of being attacked last night, and I would not have known at all if it wasn't for Cakes posting it here. I feel like what you/other people considering that option is essentially this;"The mafia tried to kill Hypermug, therefore he is mafia." It just doesn't make sense to me.

Holypie Wrote:Regarding Luv's power, I think it kind of sucks for the town because if he accidentally hits a townie, they're kind of boned based on RNG. If he manages to find a mafioso, there's no guarantee that they'll actually be blocked. This actually makes it seem more likely that there is another proper roleblocker. As for Luv's alignment, I can't really say but I'd think that the two roleblockers would be on opposite teams.

ChaoticCJ Wrote:Also, did I miss something or did Kyrastri; say who she targeted?

ChaoticCJ Wrote:I think it is safe to assume parasect. The only thing that concerns me about that and why I had asked who Kyrastri targeted is because if she used rage power or some type of spore on CakesXD, that could be the reason CakesXD felt compelled to attack Hypermug. Then I guess it was she "inhibited" via attract? It is just another theory...although the last one didn't go to well because I missed a big clue, so I don't want to miss another clue...

Kyrastri Wrote:This at least somewhat confirms that our moves are naturally learnable (mine is), unless someone wants to point out that their move is a TM move. xBTAx still has a point that it's possible that our pokemon and move names are flavour stretched to fit each role.

- With the knowledge that you didn't get a PM makes cakes a bit more suspicious

I get that there's more town than mafia, but a mafia doctor (the only role that I can think of that would block something like a roleblock) seems... I don't know. Weird? Maybe niernen's broken the mold, but I somehow really doubt that the mafia has a doctor, because 1) following move theory I haven't picked out a particularly 'sketchy' healing move yet (I'm practically on bulbapedia 24/7 LOL), and 2) we don't know whether town protect even protects against roleblock-type moves, let alone a possible mafia protect. That wording's terrible, but I hope you understand me :c

Olsi Wrote:At the moment I really dont trust Verrkol or Luv. I say we vote Luv off as his ability is a lot more harmful, if he turns out to be mafia we crunch verrkol too.

TheBirds Wrote:that just seems to be a very weird thing to do to me, normally if the between the choice of two people if one was town we would go after the other, not both no matter what. plus i honestly can't really see any connection luv and verr have, i feel like you're trying really hard to get possibly innocent people voted off which appears scummy to me, so with that i am placing my vote on you. [Vote]Olsi

Kyrastri Wrote:What leads you to believe that there's "no guarantee that they'll actually be blocked"? What's the difference between that and no guarantee that town will actually be blocked?

I get that there's more town than mafia, but a mafia doctor (the only role that I can think of that would block something like a roleblock) seems... I don't know. Weird? Maybe niernen's broken the mold, but I somehow really doubt that the mafia has a doctor, because 1) following move theory I haven't picked out a particularly 'sketchy' healing move yet (I'm practically on bulbapedia 24/7 LOL), and 2) we don't know whether town protect even protects against roleblock-type moves, let alone a possible mafia protect. That wording's terrible, but I hope you understand me :c

Olsi Wrote:At the moment I really dont trust Verrkol or Luv. I say we vote Luv off as his ability is a lot more harmful, if he turns out to be mafia we crunch verrkol too.

Hypermug Wrote:To be honest, this seems pretty crappy to me. Don't get me wrong, Luv was really weird in the beginning, to the point where things were becoming "unfun," but at the same time, he's been the most transparent with his ability. The fact that he was not 100% correct on its mechanics raises questions, but regardless, we know who is at fault if somebody gets paralyzed now. The downside is that someone could easily lie and say Luv attacked them, and I admit I don't know how to deal with that.

Polantaris Wrote:It's pretty easy to refute a Luv attack claim. Someone else will say they got paralyzed. If that's his ability really does, it has a distinct signature of being Luv. If you have two people claiming then one of them is mafia.

Holypie Wrote:Why would anyone claim that for no reason though? I see no advantage of claiming to be paralyzed, and anyway Luv could easily verify it as well.

Holypie Wrote:Why would anyone claim that for no reason though? I see no advantage of claiming to be paralyzed, and anyway Luv could easily verify it as well.