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9th Anniversary Discussion - holycow - 2014-05-08

Even Wrote:Why soul weapons should not be overhyped or considered a good content:

Just so you know before reading this, you cannot gain a soul on a weapon thats sealed or change it in the future.

To get these boss souls you need to kill the boss that the soul belongs to. You can get up to 4 soul pieces per boss, and each boss has its own rank (with magnus & empress being the best). Stats is depending on the boss rank. Once you collected 10 pieces you can doubleclick them and get a random soul. The soul will tell you your passive stat boost before you apply it to your weapon, unless its the rare (or magnificent) one. All souls apart from the rare one is not tradeable, and they expire in 30 days. The rare one do not expire and is tradeable but mind you rates are very low to obtain it.

Stats you can obtain from magnus/empress: 24 STR/DEX/LUK/INT, 15 all stat, 760ish hp, 6 w.att or m.att. Your boss soul will only pick one of these. Rare boss soul can give Critical rate, boss dmg, ignore def, w.att %, m.att %, pure w.att/m.att boost, % all stat or % hp. Those are always going to be random (like my first rare soul give me stupid 3% m.att when I cant use that)

The first part is always nice to have, but the charged effect of your weapon is not.

To charge your soul you need to kill monsters, (dimensional invade is very good for a quick charge) and as you keep killing you gain more dmg on your weapon. 1 charge will give you 5 w.att and fully charged will give you 20 w.att (on empress at least). Now I dont know there was any changes made to this part with the revamp (which it looks like you guys are getting). You can choose to keep the 20 w.att boost or use your soul weapon skill and lose all 1000 charges. Most of the time this isnt worth it unless its a summon, which Empress is, but then again if you cap already the summon is always worth it. With revamp you only use up 250 of the charges rather than all of them. Worst part about using these skills is the 3-4 sec delay when casted.

Problem about this part, is that you lose ALL charges upon dying. This means no more free damage boost, its all gone. So if you cannot keep it after reviving in normal or hard magnus/cra/empress/gollux you still have no chance to regain those charges. Mobs that empress spawn wont give you enough, same for gollux. This doesnt mean it doesnt help you grind or boss where you normally wont die, I dont know if buff freezers will keep the charges or not.

Hope that clear some things up, but I think many of you will be dissapointed of this system, or let alone end up not bothering to charge your weapon before bossing.

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souls can be changed, no?
cygnus soul gives 960 mhp. The 20 wa boost also disappears after around 20 minutes or so, if you charged it max and you die, then you're better off summoning the soul for extra damage lol.

edit: getting dispelled also takes away all your charges [/COLOR]



9th Anniversary Discussion - Spadow - 2014-05-08

Takebacker Wrote:Eh...i hope there's something more. Is murgoth's dungeon good?

Yes, it is good. It's a fast way to get boss soul pieces. I advise you to do 1:1 mode with a friend.
Probability of the soul pieces that you can get from the dungeon is low. Lowest is 0.1 if I remember correctly.

fodjgngf Wrote:Isn't the whole Murgoths dungeon thing part of soul weapons? Also doesn't kms remove it from time to time?

It is related to Soul Weapons. The dungeon is a limited event. It has a season 2 which is currently in KMS. Season 2 is crap compared to season 1.


9th Anniversary Discussion - High - 2014-05-08

What I don't like is that huge thing above your character's head, is that really necessary? It's so distracting.


9th Anniversary Discussion - Even - 2014-05-08

holycow Wrote:[COLOR="#0000FF"]
souls can be changed, no?
cygnus soul gives 960 mhp. The 20 wa boost also disappears after around 20 minutes or so, if you charged it max and you die, then you're better off summoning the soul for extra damage lol.

edit: getting dispelled also takes away all your charges [/COLOR]

Yes you can change souls ofc.

The bold is a bug in msea and at most bosses I got 100% status resistance, meaning dispel is not a factor.


9th Anniversary Discussion - icephoenix21 - 2014-05-08

High Wrote:What I don't like is that huge thing above your character's head, is that really necessary? It's so distracting.

Added to the Totems and several other gaudy effects we have..just ugh.


9th Anniversary Discussion - ShinkuDragon - 2014-05-08

one thing i don't understand though, the "random ability" means i'll get, say, a cygnus with %attack, and if i farm cygnus again i could get a cygnus soul with + str correct?

please tell me these drops are also instanced in there ._.


9th Anniversary Discussion - sweetpapaya - 2014-05-08

icephoenix21 Wrote:Added to the Totems and several other gaudy effects we have..just ugh.

All those effect make jq even harder for me qq


9th Anniversary Discussion - Takebacker - 2014-05-08

sweetpapaya Wrote:All those effect make jq even harder for me qq

...Since when do you need a weapon, totems, pets, or android for jump quests?


9th Anniversary Discussion - Even - 2014-05-08

ShinkuDragon Wrote:one thing i don't understand though, the "random ability" means i'll get, say, a cygnus with %attack, and if i farm cygnus again i could get a cygnus soul with + str correct?

please tell me these drops are also instanced in there ._.

Yes you can get another one if you farm again. However the % w.att only appears on Rare soul and that soul itself has another list of random stat you can get, but that will only be revealed once its applied on your weapon. Best option for most of you is to aim for the 24 stat (15 all for xenon) and then just stick with that till you get a rare one, then test your luck. But you can ofc be unlucky like me and land on % m.att instead of w.att. I dont think these drops are instanced and I have no way of testing that since EMS still use the old system.


9th Anniversary Discussion - ShinkuDragon - 2014-05-08

Even Wrote:Yes you can get another one if you farm again. However the % w.att only appears on Rare soul and that soul itself has another list of random stat you can get, but that will only be revealed once its applied on your weapon. Best option for most of you is to aim for the 24 stat (15 all for xenon) and then just stick with that till you get a rare one, then test your luck. But you can ofc be unlucky like me and land on % m.att instead of w.att. I dont think these drops are instanced and I have no way of testing that since EMS still use the old system.

so, just to make sure.

get 10 cygnus soul fragments
fuse them
then i get a common or rare soul
apply it to my weapon
that then works as a magnifying glass and i can now see what effect it had.

correct?


9th Anniversary Discussion - HighOnMushrooms - 2014-05-08

ShinkuDragon Wrote:so, just to make sure.

get 10 cygnus soul fragments
fuse them
then i get a common or rare soul
apply it to my weapon
that then works as a magnifying glass and i can now see what effect it had.

correct?
You can see the stats it will give before putting it on your weapon, the completed Soul will have a specific prefix for each stat (and it will show the stats it gives in the description).

Also yeah the soul pieces are instanced drops Smile


9th Anniversary Discussion - ShinkuDragon - 2014-05-08

HighOnMushrooms Wrote:You can see the stats it will give before putting it on your weapon, the completed Soul will have a specific prefix for each stat (and it will show the stats it gives in the description).

Also yeah the soul pieces are instanced drops Smile

PRAISE THE RNG


9th Anniversary Discussion - icephoenix21 - 2014-05-08

sweetpapaya Wrote:All those effect make jq even harder for me qq

I tend to take almost everything off when I'm doing jump quests (even my shoes/wep/cape) @_@


9th Anniversary Discussion - tecul1 - 2014-05-08

icephoenix21 Wrote:I tend to take almost everything off when I'm doing jump quests (even my shoes/wep/cape) @_@

VSS help a ton in JQs though, but yea, only my overall w/ invincible neb and VSS on. Everything else is so distracting.


9th Anniversary Discussion - holycow - 2014-05-08

Even Wrote:Yes you can change souls ofc.

The bold is a bug in msea and at most bosses I got 100% status resistance, meaning dispel is not a factor.

oh wow good job msea Tongue


9th Anniversary Discussion - SwordStaker - 2014-05-09

How do you get the white equipment? I haven't gotten any =/


9th Anniversary Discussion - Takebacker - 2014-05-09

SwordStaker Wrote:How do you get the white equipment? I haven't gotten any =/

Kill the admin balloon in town and open the boxes to get white boxes that give white armor


9th Anniversary Discussion - SaptaZapta - 2014-05-09

SwordStaker Wrote:How do you get the white equipment? I haven't gotten any =/

The boxes that drop from "monsters your level" (including evo world and dimensional invasion) can give White Armor or White Weapon boxes.


9th Anniversary Discussion - ShinkuDragon - 2014-05-09

sigh

edit> disregard, apparently i missed a day.


9th Anniversary Discussion - Takebacker - 2014-05-09

Man this saturn* chair is really giving me some trouble. I did some of my daily bossing after my 2x card...root abyss, krexel, 2x hilla, von leon, and 3x toad boss still no chair ;-;