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RED update thoughts and feedback - Cerebella - 2013-12-06

It was way better than I thought and I absolutely loved the Shadower revamp.

RED update thoughts and feedback - Foolyz - 2013-12-06

LiquidSwing Wrote:This is a tad off topic, but I figured It would fit best here since people are getting rings and such.

Assuming you had access to tradeable old adventurer rings, which class in the game would benefit most from One of the old rings + The new 15% crit ring?

Probably I/L, or Hayato. Pretty much any class nearing 100% crit rate. An extra 15% crit damage is no joke!

RED update thoughts and feedback - Luxeraph - 2013-12-06

Stereo Wrote:On that subject, I've found a grand total of 2 Twisted Time so far in a few days training etc.

Meister weapons use 1000 each. The accessories use like 800.
Only having my greed pendant on while doing the quest for the free pass to RLH I got 4(at the first room of frozen past at ToT) but yesterday I got none.

RED update thoughts and feedback - PirateIzzy - 2013-12-06

Yeah, book trading is glitched or something. None of my books are eligible, and I have a lot of removed ones.

RED update thoughts and feedback - huehuehue - 2013-12-06

LiquidSwing Wrote:This is how I feel 100%. I hope someone else who knows more about the game can tell me a fast way to lvl up past 160.

Kill HT twice a day, afk, repeat. Go to HoH/Golems when you reach those levels.

RED update thoughts and feedback - VerrKol - 2013-12-06

PirateIzzy Wrote:Yeah, book trading is glitched or something. None of my books are eligible, and I have a lot of removed ones.

I managed to trade in a whole bunch of 20 books. Then the option to trade in any books disappeared so I never traded my 30s.

RED update thoughts and feedback - PirateIzzy - 2013-12-06

VerrKol Wrote:I managed to trade in a whole bunch of 20 books. Then the option to trade in any books disappeared so I never traded my 30s.

The list is always empty when I talk to Maple Admin. And I have old books like Achilles, Spirit Link, and others.

RED update thoughts and feedback - Stereo - 2013-12-06

LiquidSwing Wrote:This is how I feel 100%. I hope someone else who knows more about the game can tell me a fast way to lvl up past 160.

Dimension Invasion takes 8-10min and has always been better exp than Evo world for me (mostly cause the spawnrate's way higher and they have about 10x hp equivalent). At 150-160, I'd guess 30% per clear on base exp, which means a level per shot with event + all the free 1.5x cards they handed out.

I dunno, personally I get bored of Evolution World by 135-140 cause I've been at it since 100, and just head off to do the various quest chains (Crimsonwood, Tynerum, Temple of Time)


The real gap I see is that you enter Stronghold at 165 (or 160 if you have teleport rocks) - you don't go anywhere else until 190, at which point you have Golems, which is the end until 250.

If you have a problem with the lack of choice at 160 I think the simplest answer is: You've already got all your skills. Quit leveling up the character. If Stronghold training is slow, then you're too weak for the >160 level bosses anyway. There's no functional reason to be higher - just do it if you like grinding for hours at a time at the same maps.

RED update thoughts and feedback - LiquidSwing - 2013-12-06

huehuehue Wrote:Kill HT twice a day, afk, repeat. Go to HoH/Golems when you reach those levels.

Dont you have to go through some long party quest and stuff to do it? I have no idea how to even begin.

RED update thoughts and feedback - Evolite - 2013-12-06

PirateIzzy Wrote:Yeah, book trading is glitched or something. None of my books are eligible, and I have a lot of removed ones.

Apparently she only accepts books for skills that got removed, not books for existing skills. Yea it's stupid.

RED update thoughts and feedback - Endgame - 2013-12-06

LiquidSwing Wrote:Dont you have to go through some long party quest and stuff to do it? I have no idea how to even begin.
Basically, you get a quest from the Chief in Leafre, find Moira, get the items she requests (Manon's Cry is one of them. Good luck finding him/her.), then she'll make a transform potion that's only good for one run.

She gives you a quest for permanent access, but it involves drops from Pianus and Zakum. And Zakum has the Jump Quest.....

So basically, it takes a while, yes.

RED update thoughts and feedback - TrueBlitz - 2013-12-06

PirateIzzy Wrote:The list is always empty when I talk to Maple Admin. And I have old books like Achilles, Spirit Link, and others.

You sure you're not looking in the wrong option?
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And I can confirm with over 30+ book mules possessing many different books which ones are eligible to trade in:

Monster Magnet
Rush
Power Stance
Achilles
Guardian
Berserk
Hex of the Beholden
Aura of Beholden
Glacier Chain
Advanced Blessing 30 (AB20 is not eligible)
Hurricane
Spirit Link: Phoenix
Spirit Link: Frostprey
Piercing Arrow
Assassinate
Taunt

RED update thoughts and feedback - PirateIzzy - 2013-12-06

TrueBlitz Wrote:snip

Realized what I was doing wrong. Thank you.

RED update thoughts and feedback - Endgame - 2013-12-07

Grr..... why'd they kill Magic Claw instead of Magic Bolt? Ellina's terrain makes it annoying to hit enemies with it.

RED update thoughts and feedback - dowie - 2013-12-07

new spawn rates is absolutely insane. Especially DI. 4 mins full runs where the only time you can rebuff is when the gargoyles fly across and drop the rocks.

RED update thoughts and feedback - Prism - 2013-12-07

RedRaven16 Wrote:why get magic guard phantoms dont have the mp to use it effectively. If your mp cant take the hit mg will not activate

When I played my phantom Magic Guard was better than using Power Guard at places like Azwan. Also when I was training to 200 my avoid was so high that it was better to use Magic Guard with a Mutant Snail familiar than it was to let the damage go to my HP.

RED update thoughts and feedback - Stereo - 2013-12-07

Gave my Paladin a proper try... um


holy pineapple


They buffed Paladins quite a bit.
 Spoiler
My range is 155-170k buffed. (equivalent Hero gear, level 175: 95k or so) I do a bit under 7.5mil per Lightning Charge (mobbing attack) and 10mil per Blast (single target)... and the same amount on Hilla because she has a lot of defense compensating for my 70% boss. I think my Blast was doing around 400k*7 before; hadn't played in a while.

My only complaint is the blast buff lasts such a short time it keeps killing my charges during boss fights if I don't pay attention. To be fair, I didn't bother to Threaten, either.



Nothing has done more than 1 damage to me yet

RED update thoughts and feedback - RedRaven16 - 2013-12-07

Its so hard to see dr on a boss with black flames all over it

RED update thoughts and feedback - Foolyz - 2013-12-07

Stereo Wrote:~snip~

They weren't kidding when they said that Pallies laugh in the face of bosses. *squeals with excitement*

RED update thoughts and feedback - PirateIzzy - 2013-12-07

dowie Wrote:new spawn rates is absolutely insane. Especially DI. 4 mins full runs where the only time you can rebuff is when the gargoyles fly across and drop the rocks.

Agreed. Also in Nett's Pyramid. There's barely any time to rebuff because the next wave is already starting.