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Attack Speed Reference - ¥-Striker-¥ - 2009-12-16
Yeah i juz bought a SSB
tried spamming attack, double swing, triple swing
and always on the 8th triple swing, the nex atk will juz atk, no double swing. No matter how hard or fast i press the C button, its always like that
Attack Speed Reference - TLX - 2010-01-02
I have tried timing triple swing with fraps and here is what I have gotten:
Test 1 (including time in prone position)
2 (fast) // 1230 milliseconds
3 (normal) // 1350 milliseconds
4 (slow A) // 1470 milliseconds
5 (slow B) // 1560 milliseconds
6 (slower) // 1680 milliseconds
Test 2,3,4 (excluding time in prone position)
41(5->2) 1150-1180-1200-1230
45(6->3) 1200-1280-1280-1320
49(7->4) 1350-1380-1380-1470
52(8->5) 1470-1480-1480-1500-1570
56(9->6) 1480-1500-1590
Test 5 (using 1500 as base)
1110/1140
1230
1320
1410
1500
None of these are exact, but the variation seemed to be too great to make any sense...
I don't see how triple is calculated, if it was 750 (normal atk) + 420 (double) + 660 (triple) = 1830, that is too long. So what does the 660 mean?
Attack Speed Reference - Shidoshi - 2010-06-19
I have just tested 60s holding down explosion while using a wand speed [4] with booster2, I counted 55 casts in 60s, so about 916ms per cast.
wand speed [7] booster2 - 50 casts in 60s, so 933ms per cast.
they seemed quite close but the difference in-game is noticeable. I suggest someone with a more exact way to measure it to time them (or tell me how to get more accurate times).
Attack Speed Reference - hadriel - 2010-06-19
I got an issue... what about Pyramid buffs?
Hadriel
Attack Speed Reference - ZakumSlaYers - 2010-08-23
Code:
signed int __cdecl get_cool_time(signed int a1)
{
char v1; // zf@10
if ( a1 > 5201002 )
{
if ( a1 > 21001001 )
{
if ( a1 != 22141001 )
{
if ( a1 != 32101001 && a1 != 32111011 )
{
if ( a1 != 33101002 )
{
v1 = a1 == 33121005;
LABEL_35:
if ( !v1 )
return 0;
return 1000;
}
return 400;
}
return 500;
}
}
else
{
if ( a1 != 21001001 && a1 != 5201006 )
{
if ( a1 <= 5211003 )
return 0;
if ( a1 <= (signed int)loc_4F837D )
return 450;
if ( (int (*)())a1 == (int (*)())((char *)loc_A9634B + 2) )
return 1500;
if ( a1 == 13101005 )
return 400;
if ( a1 == 14111006 )
return 1500;
if ( a1 != 15111004 )
return 0;
return 200;
}
}
}
else
{
if ( a1 != 5201002 )
{
if ( a1 <= 4121008 )
{
if ( a1 != 4121008 && a1 != 1121001 && a1 != 1321001 )
{
if ( a1 == 3101003 )
return 400;
if ( a1 != 3120010 )
{
if ( a1 != 3201003 )
{
v1 = a1 == 4001003;
goto LABEL_35;
}
return 400;
}
return 1500;
}
return 500;
}
if ( (int (__cdecl *)(int, VARIANTARG *))a1 == loc_40684F )
return 200;
if ( a1 - (_DWORD)loc_40684F != 99995 )
{
if ( a1 - (_DWORD)loc_40684F == 119996 )
return 2000;
if ( a1 - (_DWORD)loc_40684F == 899998 )
return 500;
if ( a1 - (_DWORD)loc_40684F != 900000 )
return 0;
return 200;
}
}
}
return 1000;
}Cant seems to find every one of them
Attack Speed Reference - Dusk - 2010-08-23
Those are cooldown times.
Attack Speed Reference - fatpig - 2010-09-02
hadriel Wrote:I got an issue... what about Pyramid buffs?
Hadriel
i would like to know this too
also about heal, does the pyramid buff increase the speed?
Attack Speed Reference - MrTouchnGo - 2011-03-10
Is this thread still up to date as of Big Bang? IIRC, the first revamp (before the Big Bang) boosted B-step's speed by a bit. Has the Big Bang changed any other skill speeds?
Disregard this, please.
Thanks!
Attack Speed Reference - MrTouchnGo - 2011-03-10
Is this thread still up to date as of Big Bang? IIRC, the first revamp (before the Big Bang) boosted B-step's speed by a bit. Has the Big Bang changed any other skill speeds?
Also, from reading the first page of comments, I gather the minimum casting time is 600 ms. Is this still in effect, or has it been changed?
Attack Speed Reference - Resonance - 2011-03-10
MrTouchnGo Wrote:Is this thread still up to date as of Big Bang? IIRC, the first revamp (before the Big Bang) boosted B-step's speed by a bit. Has the Big Bang changed any other skill speeds?http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=35267
Attack Speed Reference - bast963 - 2011-04-23
Is the Aran normal attack really 750 ms on normal (6)?
Because I could've sworn it looked like he was swinging faster than your average dk normal attack due to the missing animation frames. If anything, I think it's almost as fast as the double swing.
Or are the visuals lying to me?
Attack Speed Reference - JoeTang - 2011-04-23
bast963 Wrote:Is the Aran normal attack really 750 ms on normal (6)?
Because I could've sworn it looked like he was swinging faster than your average dk normal attack due to the missing animation frames. If anything, I think it's almost as fast as the double swing.
Or are the visuals lying to me?
An Aran's normal attack on Normal (6) is like 540ms or 600ms or something when it chains into Double Swing. It's significantly faster than a regular Warrior's Polearm attack, but there's also like a 1000ms delay when you don't do Double Swing.
Attack Speed Reference - bast963 - 2011-05-01
JoeTang Wrote:An Aran's normal attack on Normal (6) is like 540ms or 600ms or something when it chains into Double Swing. It's significantly faster than a regular Warrior's Polearm attack, but there's also like a 1000ms delay when you don't do Double Swing.
Yes, I noticed a good number of those things a while ago. The delay from one attack to another is horrible for stuff that requires breaking objects, since it's much slower than anyone else's if you just hold the button.
Though, looking at Overswing again, the first hit is just him swinging in like 5 frames, then stays in that pose for like 100-150 ms or something, then chains into Double Swing.
The other day, I saw an Aran that was using only the Double Swing part of Overswing at LHC. I asked him how that was even possible, and he told me that it was a hotkeying glitch during the first few days of release for this class. He had Final Charge and Triple Swing hotkeyed too, but his Double was pulling some crazy dps. My Aran was made on release too (I even have Combo King), so I missed out on this.
But can you get banned for it? Doing Double Swing only, at faster (2), yields some really ridiculous dps thanks to Overswing.
Attack Speed Reference - Signal - 2011-05-01
bast963 Wrote:Yes, I noticed a good number of those things a while ago. The delay from one attack to another is horrible for stuff that requires breaking objects, since it's much slower than anyone else's if you just hold the button.
Though, looking at Overswing again, the first hit is just him swinging in like 5 frames, then stays in that pose for like 100-150 ms or something, then chains into Double Swing.
The other day, I saw an Aran that was using only the Double Swing part of Overswing at LHC. I asked him how that was even possible, and he told me that it was a hotkeying glitch during the first few days of release for this class. He had Final Charge and Triple Swing hotkeyed too, but his Double was pulling some crazy dps. My Aran was made on release too (I even have Combo King), so I missed out on this.
But can you get banned for it? Doing Double Swing only, at faster (2), yields some really ridiculous dps thanks to Overswing.
That's called hacking.
Attack Speed Reference - Green4Ever - 2011-05-09
bast963 Wrote:The other day, I saw an Aran that was using only the Double Swing part of Overswing at LHC. I asked him how that was even possible, and he told me that it was a hotkeying glitch during the first few days of release for this class. He had Final Charge and Triple Swing hotkeyed too, but his Double was pulling some crazy dps. My Aran was made on release too (I even have Combo King), so I missed out on this.
But can you get banned for it? Doing Double Swing only, at faster (2), yields some really ridiculous dps thanks to Overswing.
He's making crap up with the "the first few days of release for this class." I know for a fact he's using a hack to hotkey skills that would otherwise require a combo to use.
Attack Speed Reference - JoeTang - 2011-06-18
I did some testing with Chains of Hell. The Chain portion of the attack appears to be ~600ms, affected by weapon speed and Booster. The attacking portion appears to be the listed 1740ms. Add 120ms for the initial Dark Sight.
When Advanced Dark Sight does not activate, there appears to be some additional delay that makes the result inconsistent. The overall delay of reusing the skill appears to be around 3210ms in such a case, but uses the above delay to perform a different attack. There may or may not be some extra delay between the Chain extending and hitting a monster that is further away as well, I cannot tell.
Also, Explosion is now 1020ms.
Attack Speed Reference - riwu0730 - 2011-06-26
this thread is outdated? F>att speed for post-bbp
Attack Speed Reference - Takebacker - 2011-06-26
riwu0730 Wrote:this thread is outdated? F>att speed for post-bbp
The majority of the information is unchanged.
Whatever else you might need is here: http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=30081&p=503465&viewfull=1#post503465
Attack Speed Reference - Kalemora - 2012-06-15
So there's something that isn't quite clear here for me. When you calculate the delay, do you always round up or no?
Attack Speed Reference - Locked - 2012-06-15
Kalemora Wrote:So there's something that isn't quite clear here for me. When you calculate the delay, do you always round up or no?
Yes. Round up to the nearest 30ms.