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Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - ketchup1 - 2013-06-21

So hurricane is actually stronger than blaster
except the fact that it's even stronger on 4 mobs has me questioning... does it not trigger something that hurricane does?

also it looks like blaster turret is glitchy as hell, or something.


Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - JoeTang - 2013-06-21

ketchup1 Wrote:So hurricane is actually stronger than blaster
except the fact that it's even stronger on 4 mobs has me questioning... does it not trigger something that hurricane does?

also it looks like blaster turret is glitchy as hell, or something.

Uncountable Arrow is just better.

220 / 0.09 = 2444%/s, even less when you factor in start up
340 * 5 / 0.63 = 2698%/s

Readjusted the table to include Arrow Platter - Boss Killer. Was missing before because it's not included in the normal tables.


Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - ketchup1 - 2013-06-21

I guess what I'm asking is
-why is using hurricane + turret better dps than blaster + turret
assuming both blaster versions are 90ms, shouldn't keydown blaster be stronger than hurricane?


Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - JoeTang - 2013-06-21

ketchup1 Wrote:I guess what I'm asking is
-why is using hurricane + turret better dps than blaster + turret
assuming both blaster versions are 90ms, shouldn't keydown blaster be stronger than hurricane?

I'll need to recheck the calculations, one sec.

Okay, adjusted the original table. Misinterpreted the information for the turret damage. Hurricane is indeed worse if both Arrow Platter and its turret are 90ms. Judging by the videos, this does not appear to be the case currently. I'll likely make a Bow Master when this goes live to check the speed.


Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - ScarletNova - 2013-06-22

Those bowmaster numbers are sweet. Anyway I believe you have not done the new calculations for Mercedes for the 30% max crit damage and the 20% damage bonus on Ishtar for Lightning Edge


Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - JoeTang - 2013-06-23

ScarletNova Wrote:Those bowmaster numbers are sweet. Anyway I believe you have not done the new calculations for Mercedes for the 30% max crit damage and the 20% damage bonus on Ishtar for Lightning Edge

OP has the new Mercedes numbers now. Lightning Edge is useless for Ishtar.

Double Leap Tornado tables are bugged, and are the same as the regular tables, where it's just Legendary Spear + Advanced Strike Dualshot.

Also, I learned that Ring of Ishtar not only has movement enabled, you can start it in mid-air, so single target no longer needs to fill the falling animation of Legendary Spear with Strike Dualshot.


Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - JoeTang - 2013-06-27

KMST 1.2.481
Bow Master:
 Spoiler
 Hyper

Arrow Blaster for 1~4.

Marksman:
 Spoiler
 Hyper

Balanced Marksman


Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - GeistesblitZ - 2013-06-28

i assume the marksman table isn't with the damage cap increase hyper for snipe?


Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - Ngame989 - 2013-06-28

RIP Marksman Master Race 2013-2013

Although it is nice that the the wagon won't fill up quite so fast.


Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - fodjgngf - 2013-06-28

Ahh cool, bow masters are better up to 5 mobs.


Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - JoeTang - 2013-06-30

Re-evaluated Bow Masters using 40 arrows for Magic Arrow, and 20 or Poison/Drain. Bit higher DPS now.


Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - ScarletNova - 2013-07-02

JoeTang Wrote:Re-evaluated Bow Masters using 40 arrows for Magic Arrow, and 20 or Poison/Drain. Bit higher DPS now.

16792%/s vs 16791%/s. We bowmasters are finally better than marksman again.


Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - KillerZero - 2013-07-03

[MENTION=535]JoeTang[/MENTION] Does the marksman table account for the +100mil hyper? Just wondering, but now it seems MMs are only better if they can get their weapon speed up


Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - JoeTang - 2013-07-03

KillerZero Wrote:[MENTION=535]JoeTang[/MENTION] Does the marksman table account for the +100mil hyper? Just wondering, but now it seems MMs are only better if they can get their weapon speed up

Yes.


Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - 1337fm - 2013-07-05

@JoeTang Which bowmen class has the most hits per second? Including afa or trifling for WA.


Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - 1337fm - 2013-07-05

@JoeTang Which bowmen class has the most hits per second only including there 1v1 skills and afa or trifling after R.E.D patch or the current path in kms?


Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - HighOnMushrooms - 2013-07-05

Hey Joe, which hypers do you recommend for Bowmaster?


Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - JoeTang - 2013-07-05

HighOnMushrooms Wrote:Hey Joe, which hypers do you recommend for Bowmaster?

Sharp Eyes - Critical Rate if you don't have 100%, Sharp Eyes - Ignore Guard if you actually do high defense stuff, Uncountable Arrow - Bonus Attack, Arrow Platter - Reinforce and Extra Target should be best for damage, and then Boss Killer if you didn't get one of the Sharp Eyes.

Do you know if it's possible for a Phantom to steal Arrow Platter? I need to test it and I don't want to level a Bow Master.


Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - HighOnMushrooms - 2013-07-05

JoeTang Wrote:Sharp Eyes - Critical Rate if you don't have 100%, Sharp Eyes - Ignore Guard if you actually do high defense stuff, Uncountable Arrow - Bonus Attack, Arrow Platter - Reinforce and Extra Target should be best for damage, and then Boss Killer if you didn't get one of the Sharp Eyes.

Do you know if it's possible for a Phantom to steal Arrow Platter? I need to test it and I don't want to level a Bow Master.

Thanks!

Yeah I believe one of the Phantoms in my guild stole Platter from me, I can double check for you though.


Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - JoeTang - 2013-07-15

Made a correction to Wild Hunter, where Assistant Hunting Device was always active.

Added a separate Hurricane table for Bow Masters, as there are monsters and bosses that Arrow Platter simply cannot hit due to its arc.

Corrected Marksman's Arrow Illusion attack rate from 1530ms to 3030ms. (Not significant at all).