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What you think about PvP so far? - Viaje - 2011-07-25
Combattente Wrote:That's because it's badly-coded, and, knowing them, they probably wouldn't be able to do better. I'd rather not have it at all than have it as it is right now.That's still not a rational reason for insisting that "it should've never existed in a game like MapleStory."
I mean, frankly, by that train of thought, Nexon shouldn't ever release new content ever as it will 'inevitably' be badly-coded.
I mean, what's the point if it doesn't live up to your standards.
Others' happiness be damned!
Combattente Wrote:I'm so sorry, I didn't mean that you brag about it.Then perhaps you wouldn't mind explaining why you said that I brag about it.
I mean, that's precisely what you said.
There's no reading in between any lines; there's no room for misinterpretation.
You straight-up said, "Your logic, about which you brag so much..."
Combattente Wrote:You just seem to like it so much, since you pointed out what, according to you, wasn't logically connected in my posts. But apparently you still fail at it.So... my pointing out that your reasoning is flawed is somehow demonstrative of a feeling of superiority on my part?
Because, of course, it couldn't possibly be fueled by a feeling of disappointment.
Then again, you're probably right. After all, it's something I still fail at.
Someone told me that once.
Combattente Wrote:Anyways, I'm going to quit this. You seem to have way too much time on your hands, but luckily I have other things to do in life as well, other than get mad at stupid things. You can keep doing that with someone else.Funny because that's either the second or third time you've said something to that effect.
That tells me that either you simply have not learned anything from our interactions thus far or that your insistence that you have better things to do is a bluff.
Or maybe it's both.
Or neither.
I tend to forget.
Chronic failing does strange things to a person, after all.
What you think about PvP so far? - Bomber - 2011-07-25
Viaje: Oh yay, someone said something stupid! Let's badger him to hell until he leaves the thread even though he might have misinterpreted the true meaning behind a block of text!
What you think about PvP so far? - Stereo - 2011-07-25
After more time in PvP, I've noticed a definite gap in damage between me and the higher leveled players. Like, my NL takes maybe 20-25 hits to kill someone. While they take 5-6 to kill me. Both as Night Lords, but eg. level 140 and 198. Should the 20% extra Shifter really make them that much more invincible? And my gear's fairly good by non-potential standards, though it's not hacker-good (no 27 att VSS, or 26 att SCG...)
Anyway, the consequence is a similar ~5x difference in points gain, I get 300, they get 1500... feels like I'm doing something wrong.
Plus various other classes can kill me even faster. I mentioned in another thread that sometimes a high level Aran was able to knock out all my HP in a second or two. (and the hacking bishops do it even faster... sigh)
What you think about PvP so far? - Devil - 2011-07-25
Locked Wrote:How many times do we have to say that every skill has around 1500ms-3000msdelay and it's intentional.Nope that's not true, at least Hero's can spam Brave Slash the same insane speed as in PvE, they can spam it non-stop...
A lvl120 Hero with lvl1 Brave slash and 50% HP kills me with me "spamming" Siege+Tank (1 shot per second :X) and with 100% HP and this is while I'm using healbot...
Also, does anyone know why some people can have 50 No - Hits in a row when you attack them? Or are these hackers?
What you think about PvP so far? - Seanny - 2011-07-25
Bomber Wrote:Viaje: Oh yay, someone said something stupid! Let's badger him to hell until he leaves the thread even though he might have misinterpreted the true meaning behind a block of text!
he tried so hard to pull an argument out of that it even got on MY nerves.
My opinion, as someone who sorta lags but not too terribly, is that pvp's pretty fun, and beats the heck out of grinding anyday. However, I'm not concerned with winning at all which makes a huge difference.
because... while I appreciate the effort to minimize the importance of stats and thus minimize the 'pay2win' most F2Ps horribly suffer from; It's sadly way too laggy to take seriously. Not the biggest fan of the luck factor either. Doesn't mean I don't try to win though.
What you think about PvP so far? - Jerry-Boyle - 2011-07-25
Devil Wrote:Nope that's not true, at least Hero's can spam Brave Slash the same insane speed as in PvE, they can spam it non-stop...There's a mystery buff in PvP that allows you to be invincible for a short amount of time when you pick up the mystery box things I believe; ultra annoying. Pretty much the best buff combined with the attk+ buff to my knowledge.
A lvl120 Hero with lvl1 Brave slash and 50% HP kills me with me "spamming" Siege+Tank (1 shot per second :X) and with 100% HP and this is while I'm using healbot...
Also, does anyone know why some people can have 50 No - Hits in a row when you attack them? Or are these hackers?
What you think about PvP so far? - iFrancisco - 2011-07-25
Stereo Wrote:After more time in PvP, I've noticed a definite gap in damage between me and the higher leveled players. Like, my NL takes maybe 20-25 hits to kill someone. While they take 5-6 to kill me. Both as Night Lords, but eg. level 140 and 198. Should the 20% extra Shifter really make them that much more invincible? And my gear's fairly good by non-potential standards, though it's not hacker-good (no 27 att VSS, or 26 att SCG...)
Anyway, the consequence is a similar ~5x difference in points gain, I get 300, they get 1500... feels like I'm doing something wrong.
I think the biggest difference from the level gap has to due with a buff skill that directly impacts your pvp stats: MW. At 140, you probably only have MW10, or 20 at most, while the 198 most likely has MW30. Of course, having every other important skill at max also helps.
Other things that people don't seem to factor in is the battle mode ATT; I pvp with about 10 of that ATT and it seems to make a huge difference (obtained from the battle mode items and ambition).
What you think about PvP so far? - shouri - 2011-07-25
Devil Wrote:Nope that's not true, at least Hero's can spam Brave Slash the same insane speed as in PvE, they can spam it non-stop...
A lvl120 Hero with lvl1 Brave slash and 50% HP kills me with me "spamming" Siege+Tank (1 shot per second :X) and with 100% HP and this is while I'm using healbot...
Also, does anyone know why some people can have 50 No - Hits in a row when you attack them? Or are these hackers?
That and BaMs get a few seconds of invincibility from blue aura + body boost or while in tornado spin.
What you think about PvP so far? - Arroz - 2011-07-25
Devil Wrote:Nope that's not true, at least Hero's can spam Brave Slash the same insane speed as in PvE, they can spam it non-stop...
A lvl120 Hero with lvl1 Brave slash and 50% HP kills me with me "spamming" Siege+Tank (1 shot per second :X) and with 100% HP and this is while I'm using healbot...
Also, does anyone know why some people can have 50 No - Hits in a row when you attack them? Or are these hackers?
Nope BS has a pretty long cool down, so do all of our skills like Shout and MM has at least a 15 second cool down. If you didn't know about the inv buff, than I can imagine you don't know much about PvP.
What you think about PvP so far? - PervyLion - 2011-07-26
I find the developing hackers annoying as pineapple. Cause having a score of 50 to 200 is totally legit when one person equals 5 points.
What you think about PvP so far? - Arroz - 2011-07-26
PervyLion Wrote:I find the developing hackers annoying as pineapple. Cause having a score of 50 to 200 is totally legit when one person equals 5 points.
say what now? I've seen the fly and no delay hacks but someone is just straight messing with the score?
What you think about PvP so far? - PervyLion - 2011-07-26
Arroz Wrote:say what now? I've seen the fly and no delay hacks but someone is just straight messing with the score?
I was in a team battle and the opposing team had a no delay BaM that everytime he killed a person the notice will say 'name has killed this person' and it shows up 4-5 times racking up the score to beyond belief.
if i see it again ill post a ss of it.
What you think about PvP so far? - Stereo - 2011-07-26
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Not a BaM or a team battle, but you get the point. All you can really do is quit and try for another room.
It's not something you can 100% ban for though, cause I've seen it happen when multiple players attack someone at once, they all get credit for the kill.
What you think about PvP so far? - Devil - 2011-07-26
Arroz Wrote:Nope BS has a pretty long cool down, so do all of our skills like Shout and MM has at least a 15 second cool down. If you didn't know about the inv buff, than I can imagine you don't know much about PvP.Well, then I guess there is a hack out that allows for non stop BS spamming, that's all I can conclude...
Also, I knew about the inv.buff, but that doesnt explain how someone you're attacking gets this all of the sudden without any items on the map or without them picking anything up...
Stereo Wrote:Hmmm I've seen this as well... people increasing their score at insane rates (1000 score per minute).
*sigh* Well, PvP was fun, till the hackers came, within a week... :/
What you think about PvP so far? - Arroz - 2011-07-26
Devil Wrote:snip/
There is considerable lag even with power ups and sometimes even with your own skills. It can be very frustrating getting killed from across the map (especially with i/l mages and CL or ultimates). That's why it can feel so slow. Your best bet is to figure out how big of a gap lag is making and predict where opponents are going to be and what they are going to do. There aren't a lot of good people in pvp and many people do the same predictable moves.
For instance if you kill a an ultimate user or a warrior use a tele to get away from the fray as they will most likely use their ultimate or magic crash, since death restarts all cooldowns.
About the hackers, I just leave a room asap or try to get everyone to team up against them. Most of the time it's just some crappy script kiddie with a shitty connection so they will get last place if enough of you gang up on them. If not bounce, there is no point feeding them BP and getting mad since pvp is a free action.
What you think about PvP so far? - Devil - 2011-07-26
Arroz Wrote:Nope BS has a pretty long cool down, so do all of our skills like Shout and MM has at least a 15 second cool down. If you didn't know about the inv buff, than I can imagine you don't know much about PvP.With lag I meant the delay in skills is amplified by lag, and im not talking about nodelay hacks the kiddies use, I'm taking about when you see another person (same class) using skills with delay against you, but he's just 1.5x faster, not stronger, I really mean faster here, per attack with the same skill...
What you think about PvP so far? - RedRaven16 - 2011-07-26
Devil you should see how fast you can use BoT seeing as that skill has no to little delay on it
What you think about PvP so far? - Devil - 2011-07-26
RedRaven16 Wrote:Devil you should see how fast you can use BoT seeing as that skill has no to little delay on itHmmm that's odd, it's faster then steal... o.0
What you think about PvP so far? - Reako - 2011-07-27
Ice Knight will be up tomorrow. That means it's time for a new slew of comments/complaints/etc
I never got to test it on Tespia... I heard the knight in question is overpowered, but I don't know. We'll see, I suppose!
What you think about PvP so far? - Daakun - 2011-07-27
Yeah, just wait until the cheaters steal all the victory points by single handedly destroying the ice knight.