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Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - CommanderJinn - 2011-06-16
Well, it depends if you even call that fight, a real fight. The raikage didn't really beat Naruto because Naruto isn't dead. Naruto isn't even severely hurt in any way. Sasuke had some serious problem trying to beat the Raikage, all of which did serious damage to himself (Amatarasu/Susanoo) while the Raikage didn't really get hurt at all. You can't really say that Sasuke was winning that fight at all, as the reason for the Raikage to lose his arm in the first place, was Sasuke's last ditch effort to keep himself protected from attacks (which failed). If it weren't for Madara sweeping in and saving him at the last second, Sasuke would've died.
tl;dr: Naruto did a lot better than Sasuke did vs the Raikage.
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - byakugan - 2011-06-16
I reread the Sasuke vs Raikage fight chapters so I could reply to your arguments
Sasuke did cause damage to the Raikage. Not just he was able to avoid his elbow attack but also landed a Chidori on his chest, only scratched the Raikage? yes, but that doesn't take away the merit for it. He also was responsable for Raikage's lost arm, even if he cut it off himself, because it was burning with the "eternal flames" of amaterazu he would have lost it anyway. People can argue aswell that Sasuke had his ass saved a few times during that battle, but he wasn't fighting with his full power (Mangekyo) from the start, if he had been, he wouldn't have needed help. To finish, if Gaara hadn't saved Raikage, Sasuke would have taken this one's leg aswell and might have stayed alive (using Amaterazu to block his kick).
And then we also got Gaara, Kankuro, Temari and Darui attacking Sasuke at the same time and this one blocking the attacks like nothing. Sasuke got more damage from using his Mangekyo during the fight than from any attack landed on him _(which were only 2)
I know Sasuke got plotArmor (lolSusano'o), but what I'm afraid of is that this plot armor extends to his fight with Naruto. I don't wanna see a 15 chapters fight full of flashbacks of their childhood and Naruto beggin Sasuke to be good again. Sasuke deserves to be blown to pieces or at least snapped back to reality.
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - Corn - 2011-06-16
It seems Naruto barely even tried to attack the raikage, though. He just, what, charged at him?
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - OB3LISK - 2011-06-16
Huh no. Bee distracted him so naruto could get through but they both got fucked up by a one armed old man.
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - SolicShooter - 2011-06-17
byakugan Wrote:I reread the Sasuke vs Raikage fight chapters so I could reply to your arguments
Sasuke did cause damage to the Raikage. Not just he was able to avoid his elbow attack but also landed a Chidori on his chest, only scratched the Raikage? yes, but that doesn't take away the merit for it. He also was responsable for Raikage's lost arm, even if he cut it off himself, because it was burning with the "eternal flames" of amaterazu he would have lost it anyway. People can argue aswell that Sasuke had his ass saved a few times during that battle, but he wasn't fighting with his full power (Mangekyo) from the start, if he had been, he wouldn't have needed help. To finish, if Gaara hadn't saved Raikage, Sasuke would have taken this one's leg aswell and might have stayed alive (using Amaterazu to block his kick).
And then we also got Gaara, Kankuro, Temari and Darui attacking Sasuke at the same time and this one blocking the attacks like nothing. Sasuke got more damage from using his Mangekyo during the fight than from any attack landed on him _(which were only 2)
I know Sasuke got plotArmor (lolSusano'o), but what I'm afraid of is that this plot armor extends to his fight with Naruto. I don't wanna see a 15 chapters fight full of flashbacks of their childhood and Naruto beggin Sasuke to be good again. Sasuke deserves to be blown to pieces or at least snapped back to reality.
If you look closely at naruto's body seals you can see a difference when he's exerting more chakra then when... he doesn't. He barely used any chakra against the raikage and for that reason he might be way stronger then we think but just doesn't want to severly injure the raikage or save chakra for any real battle. Another argument is that he has used kyuubi mode the whole time walking to the battlefield which also consumes his chakra already.
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - CommanderJinn - 2011-06-17
byakugan Wrote:I reread the Sasuke vs Raikage fight chapters so I could reply to your arguments
Sasuke did cause damage to the Raikage. Not just he was able to avoid his elbow attack but also landed a Chidori on his chest, only scratched the Raikage? yes, but that doesn't take away the merit for it. He also was responsable for Raikage's lost arm, even if he cut it off himself, because it was burning with the "eternal flames" of amaterazu he would have lost it anyway. People can argue aswell that Sasuke had his ass saved a few times during that battle, but he wasn't fighting with his full power (Mangekyo) from the start, if he had been, he wouldn't have needed help. To finish, if Gaara hadn't saved Raikage, Sasuke would have taken this one's leg aswell and might have stayed alive (using Amaterazu to block his kick).
And then we also got Gaara, Kankuro, Temari and Darui attacking Sasuke at the same time and this one blocking the attacks like nothing. Sasuke got more damage from using his Mangekyo during the fight than from any attack landed on him _(which were only 2)
I know Sasuke got plotArmor (lolSusano'o), but what I'm afraid of is that this plot armor extends to his fight with Naruto. I don't wanna see a 15 chapters fight full of flashbacks of their childhood and Naruto beggin Sasuke to be good again. Sasuke deserves to be blown to pieces or at least snapped back to reality.
Naruto didn't expend any chakra besides the Beast Veil. He also used zero techniques and managed to do the same damage as the Chidori. Also, both Naruto and Bee weren't aiming to kill, while the Raikage was aiming to kill Naruto. All things considered, Naruto got out really well compared to Sasuke. As for the arm issue. What could have Sasuke done? He obviously couldn't attack in the situation, it was a stalemate that Sasuke couldn't really have won. It doesn't really matter if Sasuke was up against the other guys at the same time, because both Suigetsu and the other guy were fighting them as well. Fact is they were all defeated, and Sasuke was still in a pitiable state compared to Naruto right now. He was half blind, unconcious and injured enough to merit having to be healed.
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - Five Second Pose - 2011-06-18
byakugan Wrote:People can argue aswell that Sasuke had his ass saved a few times during that battle, but he wasn't fighting with his full power (Mangekyo) from the start, if he had been, he wouldn't have needed help.
He would've crapped out faster and then would have certainly died.
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - OB3LISK - 2011-06-22
New chaptah.
Spoiler
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - OB3LISK - 2011-06-22
NVM. THEY'RE OLD JINCHURIKI. !?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Epicest pomegranate I ever saw.
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - Lozmaster - 2011-06-22
Lol gj madara, and when kabuto decides to unsummon or take control of them himself? He gets 6 rinnegan eyes for free? Derp madara, derp.
I wonder if this is partly what kabuto was after?
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - OB3LISK - 2011-06-22
But Madara knows how to stop the seal technique now. I would love to say Madara summoned these guys himself but lol I definitely saw Kabuto summon them back when he hacked like 80 overpowered people at once.
Anyway. As I said. Bee + Naruto will end up fighting these guys. That pomegranate is gonna be intense.
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - Lozmaster - 2011-06-22
OB3LISK Wrote:But Madara knows how to stop the seal technique now. I would love to say Madara summoned these guys himself but lol I definitely saw Kabuto summon them back when he hacked like 80 overpowered people at once.
God forbid kabuto should lie or miss out an important detail when giving away secrets to a person who will obviously backstab him the first chance he gets. Didn't kabuto say he was fine anyway when he left madara after *explaining* the technique anyway.
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - OB3LISK - 2011-06-22
I thought it meant he had some more tricks. You might be right but ehhhh knowing how Naruto progresses it's probably the truth.
But, let's see. You might be right.
I don't think Kabuto will hijack those Pains though, he'll probably let them fight. Let's seeeee.
Btw wtp. Naruto can only make 2 clones in battle or sage mode gets fucked up (well I know that the extra clones holding sage chakra would get fucked up, but still) but they're gonan make him make like 50 shadow clones in fox chakra?
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - Lozmaster - 2011-06-22
To be fair, there is no reason shikaku should know about the fact that it would drain more chakra or risk losing naruto to the kyubii. Still, shikaku is a pineappleing idiot for not thinking of using katsyu
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - Homerowed - 2011-06-22
OH YEAH. Seriously the idea that there is another Six paths fight, but this time its 6 captured jinchuriki, each with a sharingan and Rinnegan (sp?), is just mindblowing to me. CAN'T WAIT.
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - OB3LISK - 2011-06-22
I was gonna mention something about how madara's eyes were cracky with bloodshot marks but ehhh.
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - byakugan - 2011-06-23
Lozmaster Wrote:Lol gj madara, and when kabuto decides to unsummon or take control of them himself? He gets 6 rinnegan eyes for free? Derp madara, derp.
I wonder if this is partly what kabuto was after?
The jinchiurikys don't have Rinnegan eyes. I don't know 100% how the rinnegan works but for what I know the rinnegan eyes on the jinchiuriky are a reflect of the one rinnegan eye that Madara is using to control them, a simptom of the connection between madara and the summons. The sharingan eyes must be real though. If Kabuto uncasted the summon technique on the jinchiurikys, he'd probably just get 6 sharingan eyes, or they would fall on the ground when the jinchiurikys vanish.
OB3LISK Wrote:Btw wtp. Naruto can only make 2 clones in battle or sage mode gets pineappleed up (well I know that the extra clones holding sage chakra would get pineappleed up, but still) but they're gonan make him make like 50 shadow clones in fox chakra?
Naruto can summon some clones on sage mode, idk how many, but on Kyubi mode he can't as each clone would consume kyubi chakra and accelerate the ammount of chakra the kyubi takes from Naruto; Naruto would die and the Kyubi would be unleashed afterwards.
I always thought a way to counter this was combining sage mode with Kyubi mode. Sage mode absorbs narutal chakra from the enviroment, so Naruto would literally have unlimited amounts of chakra to give the kyubi while using Kyubi mode.
I'm so happy Naruto didn't go out and say his two suns are Sasuke and Sakura. I swear i would have quitted reading naruto, at least for a while if he had spitted out such stupidity. Naruto might not need to summon any clone to kill off all the Zetsus. If he can really teleport, he can just go from one to another and kill them all within a minute.
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - CommanderJinn - 2011-06-29
New chapter's out
Spoiler
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - SolicShooter - 2011-06-29
CommanderJinn Wrote:New chapter's out
Spoiler
You're forgetting that we only see the start of naruto's rampage. He may experience side effects soon and he'll probably find himself meeting the kyuubi once again in order to truly sync with it. I just see this as a way of powering him up. I might be wrong though, obviously. Amazing rasengan variants in this chapter (The little hands with the mini rasenshuriken
). I hope Tsunade gets something more useful to do then this, seeing as she went back to HQ already. Also, they don't have guns, but they do have DNA technology? :f6:
Naruto Thread (Spoilers For Sure) - Malthe - 2011-06-29
SolicShooter Wrote:Also, they don't have guns, but they do have DNA technology? :f6:
You have people that alone can blow cities up.
Who would even bother to try and invent guns in such a world?