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[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Satellite - 2010-11-20
hamad138 Wrote:Actually, Arans got nerfed DPM Wise. Our Snow Charge is gone.
In BB Aran was one of the weakest job DPM wise and even after that patch, our dpm still is the worsest ( all classes have more DPM expect Bishops)
Actually if snow charges become 50% than we are balanced
Did you read what Liteness told you before?
Liteness Wrote:just stop posting about stuff u dont know
This is not basilmarket, so let's not claim anything before research, ok ty.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Malthe - 2010-11-20
hamad138 Wrote:our dpm still is the worsest ( all classes have more DPM expect Bishops)Ahaha, you're a funny guy, but let's keep jokes to the other sections and stay with the facts here, shall we?
Edit: I was thinking, some people say that fenrir and smash got spammeable, just to get it straight, we can choose to play mp or combos to use it? o.o
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - rattown - 2010-11-20
Unleashing Wrote:Ahaha, you're a funny guy, but let's keep jokes to the other sections and stay with the facts here, shall we?
Edit: I was thinking, some people say that fenrir and smash got spammeable, just to get it straight, we can choose to play mp or combos to use it? o.o
I think its because getting 15 combos is so easy when fighting mobs that smash is technically as spamable as final blow ... but as for fenrir 50 combos ? might be streching it a bit I would think ? ... I doubt it. They arent spammable the way regular skills are, that Im sure of. It wouldnt make sense otherwise.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Malthe - 2010-11-20
rattown Wrote:I think its because getting 15 combos is so easy when fighting mobs that smash is technically as spamable as final blow ... but as for fenrir ? ... I doubt it. They arent spammable the way regular skills are, that Im sure of. It wouldnt make sense otherwise.
Cool, thanks for clearing it up, was getting confused about what people meant with spammeable ^^
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - shouri - 2010-11-20
It's the finishers that are spammable (apparently only once you reach 4th job and get a skill?)
Final charge and final cross dont need to be used after Triple swing as seen in the video earlier.
No confirmation on final blow though, but it doesn't seem as likely.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Satellite - 2010-11-20
Why is there 2049422 videos about Evan, but pretty much only 1 about Aran(well 3 about the same person at diff. levels at same place)
. Who could care less about Evan, I want more Aran videos!
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - rattown - 2010-11-20
shouri Wrote:It's the finishers that are spammable (apparently only once you reach 4th job and get a skill?)
Final charge and final cross dont need to be used after Triple swing as seen in the video earlier.
No confirmation on final blow though, but it doesn't seem as likely.
final charge only needs double swing to work in gms ... so thats nothing new ... not sure about final toss but its probably a new feature I guess.
Satellite Wrote:Why is there 2049422 videos about Evan, but pretty much only 1 about Aran(well 3 about the same person at diff. levels at same place)
same ... aran videos are too few ... but thats probably because evans delays being reduced basically makes every skill feel like something new.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - -Ghost- - 2010-11-20
Quote from Spadow:
Quote:The reorganization update restructures the skills of many jobs.
One of them is Aran. Some skills were moved to an earlier advancement and the combo count requirement was lowered for a few skills. Overall, Aran received a nice boost from this update.
- Combo Recharge: Recharge an instantaneous combo count by consuming your HP and MP.
- Cleaving Attack: Ignores a certain % of the monster's physical defense, and when attacking multiple monsters, your damage decreases by a certain %.
- Combo Judgement: Attack multiple enemies by dropping a giant axe. Enemies hit by the giant axe are frozen and will be suffering from damage over time. Requires a combo count of 80.
- Swift Move: Further enhances the damage of Final Charge and Final Toss and being able to use those skills without a combo.
Doesn't say anything about Final Blow, and yes, Swift Move is a 4th Job skill. (Good thing I'm already 4th Job)
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - CommanderJinn - 2010-11-20
hamad138 Wrote:Actually, Arans got nerfed DPM Wise. Our Snow Charge is gone.
In BB Aran was one of the weakest job DPM wise and even after that patch, our dpm still is the worsest ( all classes have more DPM expect Bishops)
Actually if snow charges become 50% than we are balanced
You've seriously done nothing but complain about the Aran changes >.> Arans have always been strong, I don't know why you want them to be stronger. I mean DPM isn't really all that important outside a boss run, and even then, it really doesn't matter all that much. So what if you take about 5 minutes longer to kill a boss...
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Scaeva - 2010-11-20
rattown Wrote:final charge only needs double swing to work in gms ... so thats nothing new ... not sure about final toss but its probably a new feature I guess.Right now you still need to use any form of swing before using Final Charge/Toss. The restructuring allows Arans to just press the direction key + attack key and you can use Final Charge/Toss without having to attack first.
I wish there were videos on more than just Aran, Evan and Dual Blade. Not that a lot changed for other classes, but still.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - rattown - 2010-11-20
HurrycaneX Wrote:Right now you still need to use any form of swing before using Final Charge/Toss. The restructuring allows Arans to just press the direction key + attack key and you can use Final Charge/Toss without having to attack first.
I wish there were videos on more than just Aran, Evan and Dual Blade. Not that a lot changed for other classes, but still.
Just saw the video on spadows ... thats pretty cool ... still think its the stupidest skill in existance extremely that it makes mistake ramming into bosses ... alot more likely. repositions self, presses attack ... tombstone...well ... that didnt go too well ...
Cleaving attack is definately my favorite new skill and combo recharge is a very close second. Reducing the amount of damage reduced by attacking mobs is so awesome, but also improving defence ignore, its one heck of a cool skill. I hope they dont make it worse, I like it just the way it is.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Malthe - 2010-11-20
rattown Wrote:still think its the stupidest skill in existance extremely that it makes mistake ramming into bosses ... alot more likely. repositions self, presses attack ... tombstone...well ... that didnt go too well ...Sorry but, IMO, i haven't had any problems with final charge mis-activating yet and i believe it's a great skill, if you ram into bosses, maybe you should practice more o.o
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Bribery - 2010-11-20
Aran @ Pap
[video=youtube;jNWTAPPQPss]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNWTAPPQPss[/video]
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Takebacker - 2010-11-20
I laughed so hard when he used recharge and got stunned immediately.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Kurokisuke - 2010-11-20
i think it would've been a bit less messy if we had an aran module and an evan module..
but w/e.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - donovan - 2010-11-20
Kurokisuke Wrote:i think it would've been a bit less messy if we had an aran module and an evan module..
but w/e.
Then you'd need 5 Adventurer and 5 Cygnus and 3 Resistance easier just to smash em up.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Kurokisuke - 2010-11-21
donovan Wrote:Then you'd need 5 Adventurer and 5 Cygnus and 3 Resistance easier just to smash em up.
Well of course it's easier to mash them up, but i got a bit confused whether we were talking about evan or aran.
As i said.. whatever
Can't wait for this update.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Hanabira.Kage - 2010-11-21
Kurokisuke Wrote:Well of course it's easier to mash them up, but i got a bit confused whether we were talking about evan or aran.
As i said.. whatever
Can't wait for this update.
We were talking about Evan, until someone decided to say "pineapple this" and the conversation then switched to Aran.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - donovan - 2010-11-21
To be fair we were really talking about Evan we were talking about math vs videos, all this new stuff makes BB look so meh, I was going to start back me Evan, but I guess I'll wait till we get this.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Dracolix - 2010-11-21
Unleashing Wrote:Sorry but, IMO, i haven't had any problems with final charge mis-activating yet and i believe it's a great skill, if you ram into bosses, maybe you should practice more o.o
Quite true IMO, you can't just tap each button by accident. If you did, seriously you need more practice. You need to on purpose do it, because it's not like you tap one button then the other a second later. Just NOT possible, at least from how I've seen anyways. :x
I pretty much stopped playing, but still never during my entire usage of Final Charge had that happen. o.o;