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[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Abysseon - 2010-07-03

iAmFear Wrote:So, area bosses are bosses, and poison shouldn't work on them, right?

Mano

Stumpy

So DoT skills can work on bosses? O:
*the DoT/paralyze bossing ability Froznlite was talking about*

or is it just a glitch/another explanation? =/

[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Tikey - 2010-07-03

iAmFear Wrote:So, area bosses are bosses, and poison shouldn't work on them, right?

Mano

Stumpy

I love you right now.

[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Beg - 2010-07-03

Oh ok, that's fairly awesome for F/Ps. Definitely not a glitch seeing as it doesn't use enemy HP any more, and is therefore no longer broken in boss fights. Wonder if this DoT is affected by Amp, then we'd really be cooking.

[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Hazzy - 2010-07-03

I'd like to see it on bigger bosses than those, but this is promising.

[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - FrozNlite - 2010-07-03

Smile

If it's affected by multipliers and elementally stacks (ex. a LOLFP can inflict both burn and poison damage), and on ALL bosses, then Smile

becomes

[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Random_Overlord - 2010-07-03

Scheifen Wrote:All i have to say is... nice. Hope that stays...

Solo zakum in 5 minuits. =/ No wai.

[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - FrozNlite - 2010-07-03

Random_Overlord Wrote:Solo zakum in 5 minuits. =/ No wai.

Poison is affected by our damage rate now, not at a set value to reduce a mob HP to 1. No worries Rolleyes

[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - IllegallySane - 2010-07-03

FrozNlite Wrote:Poison is affected by our damage rate now, not at a set value to reduce a mob HP to 1. No worries .

It means however you can't do loltraining with Bracing and Misting from 30-120+ anymore. Chin

[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Kalovale - 2010-07-03

Congrats guys, rejoice. Big Grin

Just for kicks and lulz, any idea what DoT skills a F/P should have? I checked their skilltables but couldn't find Poison Mist. oO

80% DoT from Brace + 110% DoT from Fire Demon if I'm not being too gravely mistaken (sry Koreans).

[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Alilatias - 2010-07-03

So it appears that someone uploaded several videos of a Nexon Korea press conference regarding this update. I've only watched the first video thus far, but it seems the uploader understands Korean and has already translated everything he says.

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsshF5J5tyM
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tOJuljb5jo
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq_Vu47BAXI
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9teFeYLu4FU
Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv48QTPWfO0
Part 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7Kyy11Ch9c

A lot of it is stuff we already knew, but it might still be interesting to some people.

[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Abysseon - 2010-07-03

FrozNlite Wrote:

If it's affected by multipliers and elementally stacks (ex. a LOLFP can inflict
both burn and poison damage), and on ALL bosses, then becomes

Hmm, if DoT skills are proven to work on bosses, can the archmage
ultimates be used during bossing as well?

I'm asking because of the previous changes.

Quote:- Paralyze's damage over time greatly increased from 90 to 160.
DoT duration decreased from 10 to 5 seconds, but knockout time increased
by +1 second at all levels.
- Meteor Shower now does Damage over Time. DoT = 200, dot duration is
10 seconds, and DoT interval is 1 second.

Anyway of figuring out the damage caused from using these type
of skills?

If the ultimates can cause enough damage during those 10
seconds it could warrant them as a possible bossing alternative
for archmages.
*would be nice seeing them having another use after the cooldown*

[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Phoenix - 2010-07-03

Alilatias Wrote:So it appears that someone uploaded several videos of a Nexon Korea press conference regarding this update. I've only watched the first video thus far, but it seems the uploader understands Korean and has already translated everything he says.

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsshF5J5tyM
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tOJuljb5jo
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq_Vu47BAXI
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9teFeYLu4FU
Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv48QTPWfO0
Part 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7Kyy11Ch9c

A lot of it is stuff we already knew, but it might still be interesting to some people.

Very interesting. Especially since they have values for the EXP reduction =O

[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Tikey - 2010-07-03

Abysseon Wrote:Any ideas on how would you figure out the damage caused
by using these skills?

If the ultimates can cause enough damage during those 10 seconds it
could warrant them as a possible bossing skill.
*would be nice seeing them having another use after the cooldown*

Meteor = 1500% * 1.5 * 1.25 * 21 casts/min = 59062.5% + 200% * 60 sec = 71062.5%/min
Paralyze = 600% * 1.5 * 1.25 * 84 casts/min = 94500% + 160% * 60 sec = 104100%/min

This is assuming speeds haven't changed, no Infinity, no critical, and DoT isn't interrupted by repeated castings like poison is right now.

[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Kalovale - 2010-07-03

pineapple, they gathered players' opinions, but KMS players!

EDIT: Not that bad, faster growth and balance, KMS people seem to know what's up too. Big Grin

[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Hanabira.Kage - 2010-07-03

Kalovale Wrote:pineapple, they gathered players' opinions, but KMS players!

EDIT: Not that bad, faster growth and balance, KMS people seem to know what's up too.

I guess we can trust the judgement of the KMS players, then. If Nexon screws up again, we can count on the KMS players to make a huge fuss about it and force Nexon to fix it. :p

[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Random_Overlord - 2010-07-03

I can't remember if someone said if theres 1 more additional patch after this one to polish their own mess, but I sure hope theres more crap for Pally's, dk's, F/P's and BM's.

Things like:
Soul arrow-> Attack arrow adaptability
F/p's -> Need a Skill that charges up all their magic skills
DK's -> Need a higher Hp condition for Berserk to activate
Paladins -> Change final attack in 4th job to having pally's cast spells with their charges. Ex: 10% chance to cast either fire,ice demon with fire/ice charge, chain lightning with lightning charge, and a single genesis beam for Devine charge. All would have damage dependant on w.att, but would have 50% of the original spell's damage rate.

Would be great.

[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - IllegallySane - 2010-07-03

Kalovale Wrote:pineapple, they gathered players' opinions, but KMS players!

EDIT: Not that bad, faster growth and balance, KMS people seem to know what's up too.

Let's cross our fingers a .324 and quite possibly a .325 comes out before 7/8 for a final repolishing.

[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Kalovale - 2010-07-03

Random_Overlord Wrote:DK's -> Need a higher Hp condition for Berserk to activate

Why do you want to screw us even more? Frown

Potting every hit AND attacking at the same time isn't going to be pleasant.

[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Grey - 2010-07-03

So, nothing special, or weird, rather, about Poison (Poison Brace anyway), it looks like it's just your max range times the DoT % rounded down, occurs once a second, and it still leaves monsters with 1 HP.

Spoiler

Oh, and level 2 Poison Brace (24%)

[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Random_Overlord - 2010-07-03

Kalovale Wrote:Why do you want to screw us even more?
Potting every hit AND attacking at the same time isn't going to be pleasant.

I just want you guys to hit loads of damage without sacrificing loads of hp. Frown

I mean having hp under 80% would keep you guys in game at the same time right?