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Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - VerrKol - 2014-05-28
Holypie Wrote:To me, not voting to lynch past day 1 is more suspicious as it removes the town's primary method of eliminating pirafia.
Precisely. It would be rather hypocritical of me for getting overly suspicious of someone voting to lynch someone I actually thought was a possible pirate.
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - Polantaris - 2014-05-28
So I'm switching my vote: [Vote A]Zelkova
Why? I find it pretty weird that, after reviewing, he only ever shows up to "defend" himself (get attention off of himself) when he's gotten voted. Above that, he's been extremely quiet except for a single, "Oh noes, look what we did wrong," after the fact, and random, completely irrelevant and unhelpful, things to appear more active than he actually is.
It seems pretty suspicious to me.
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - Zelkova - 2014-05-28
Polantaris Wrote:So I'm switching my vote: [Vote A]Zelkova
Why? I find it pretty weird that, after reviewing, he only ever shows up to "defend" himself (get attention off of himself) when he's gotten voted. Above that, he's been extremely quiet except for a single, "Oh noes, look what we did wrong," after the fact, and random, completely irrelevant and unhelpful, things to appear more active than he actually is.
It seems pretty suspicious to me.
As mentioned before I have only really made 2 votes, 1 for no lynch 1 for someone who was voting against me (I didn't get back in time to edit my vote so that was my fault).
I have been voting for people who voted for me solely to defend myself. If you want to start pointing fingers newcomer I would be careful as you yourself seem suspicious solely because on your second post in the threads entirety you are already voting to lynch someone.
So to "break" my streak, I'll throw caution into the wind and not vote against you solely because you are voting for me. I'll [Vote A] Verrkol for right now as they seem to just have so many reasons for why they can't possibly be a pirate.
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - y0y0y0y0shi0 - 2014-05-28
I'm sensing some mad mafia bussing going on here.
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - Holypie - 2014-05-28
Okay it's pretty quiet as far as island B stuff is concerned, so I'm just going to [vote B] ImagineAll. His popping in to vote for Corn yesterday is pretty suspicious, and he hasn't said a single thing today.
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - Olsi - 2014-05-28
Is it possible for there to be no pirafia members on Island A though? So far we have seen only one death and its been on Island B, if we assume it takes a whole night to swim over should we assume town can only be killed on the same islands the pirafia is?
Otherwise we are left with Zelkova being the most suspicious, verrkol seems in a safeish spot, but with the addition of polantaris we are in a rough spot in Island A
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - y0y0y0y0shi0 - 2014-05-28
I think it's safe to assume there are 3~4 mafia. Assuming 4, that would mean they would have majority on Island B. I would think that that would mean that mafia would try and make a subtle attempt to just lynch someone right now. So I'd say there's probably a good chance there's an even split of mafia on either island.
Plus it'd be smarter to have your eggs in each basket.
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - Shidoshi - 2014-05-28
Vote count:
| Island A - Majority: 4 votes | Island B - Majority: 4 votes |
| No lynch A (1): ChaoticCJ, | No lynch B (0): |
| ChaoticCJ (0): | Corn (0): |
| Niernen (1): VerrKol, | HolyPie (0): |
| Olsi (0): | ImagineAll (1): HolyPie, |
| Polantaris (0): | MetaSeraphim (0): |
| VerrKol (1): Zelkova, | xBTAx (0): |
| Zelkova (1): Polantaris, | y0y0y0y0shi0 (0): |
Not voting (7): MetaSeraphim, Olsi, Niernen, y0y0y0y0shi0, ImagineAll, Corn, xBTAx,
Day 3 ends today at 7pm PST or when majorities are reached.
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - y0y0y0y0shi0 - 2014-05-28
And yeah after the past day and a half I don't really have any reason not to so:
[vote B] Imagineall
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - Olsi - 2014-05-28
You make a good point, mafia would easily be able to sway votes, but at the moment it seems like they dont have to since people are being voted off rather quickly. Thing is polantaris could be mafia but he hasnt been here the whole time so it'll be hard. I think our best bet is him or Zelkova, thoughts [MENTION=3195]ChaoticCJ[/MENTION];?
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - xBTAx - 2014-05-28
y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:GAH I meant Holypie sorry. I was super tired when I wrote those last night I'm an idiot.
I need to stop doing that. That's like the 3rd time now. >.>
(If it's any compensation, I'm still inclined to believe you're town too.)
Also note: Not voting tends to be more beneficial than voting no lynch, especially later on. No lynch gives the mafia the possibility of an escape, even if it's a minor one.
Fair enough; I mean, I posted that at like 3 AM, so I'm not exactly great at avoiding late night posting either!
In any case, if Corn can be believed, only Meta and I have B votes left. I'll keep an eye on the thread to see if they respond and I'll listen to that, but for the time being I'll also [vote B] ImagineAll.
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - Polantaris - 2014-05-28
Olsi Wrote:Is it possible for there to be no pirafia members on Island A though? So far we have seen only one death and its been on Island B, if we assume it takes a whole night to swim over should we assume town can only be killed on the same islands the pirafia is?
Otherwise we are left with Zelkova being the most suspicious, verrkol seems in a safeish spot, but with the addition of polantaris we are in a rough spot in Island A
Just because they have people on both islands doesn't mean that they are guaranteed kills on each island, otherwise they'd be able to pick off people far too quickly. Making the assumption that there's 3-4 pirafia, that would mean they'd be able to take everyone out in 4-5 days and that's not even including accidental lynches (12 players, 3 pirafia = everyone dead in 5 days, 4 pirafia = everyone dead in 4 days). That'd make it too easy for them. No, they probably just have no island restriction on who they can kill (So they could all be on one island and kill someone on the other).
Olsi Wrote:You make a good point, mafia would easily be able to sway votes, but at the moment it seems like they dont have to since people are being voted off rather quickly. Thing is polantaris could be mafia but he hasnt been here the whole time so it'll be hard. I think our best bet is him or Zelkova, thoughts ChaoticCJ;?
If you look over the previous days, you can see exactly what I'm saying about Zelkova. He rarely has any input except to attempt to lynch someone, and even in response to my vote on him he did exactly what I expected - not vote me (because I called him out on it), but vote on someone who has been overall helpful as another distraction.
If I'm wrong I'm gonna look like a jackass (and massive pirafia, of course), but right now I don't see him doing anything that is beneficial except pointing fingers.
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - VerrKol - 2014-05-28
I've retracted my vote for [MENTION=10201]Niernen[/MENTION]; since there seems to be no interest in lynching him and he can't be bothered to defend himself.
I'm currently torn between Polantaris and Zelkova.
Zelkova's votes are suspicious but could also simply be inept. It's even possible his over developed sense of self preservation stems from a neutral identity (he dies, he loses). Or he's just a pirate.
Polantaris fingering someone for suspicion so quickly is troubling. He's a largely unknown quantity but seems very sure of himself.
[MENTION=6823]Polantaris[/MENTION]; [MENTION=5555]Zelkova[/MENTION]; Convince me.
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - Polantaris - 2014-05-28
VerrKol Wrote:I've retracted my vote for Niernen; since there seems to be no interest in lynching him and he can't be bothered to defend himself.
I'm currently torn between Polantaris and Zelkova.
Polantaris fingering someone for suspicion so quickly is troubling. He's a largely unknown quantity but seems very sure of himself.
Polantaris; Convince me.
To be fair, when you walk in in the middle, you have a fresh perspective and can look over everything with absolutely no emotion/side-tracking what so ever. Especially since Dusk didn't ever post (that I saw). I reviewed the entire 10 page (at the time) thread in about 20-30 minutes, and when you do that a lot of things become apparent that may not when you view it and participate in it over almost 10 days. I would suggest looking over the thread if you think I'm full of it. There's almost no useful posts from Zelkova at all, and even if he appears now and comes up with something to support himself it seems awfully sudden, when it's Day 3 and he took this long to be useful. If there were no log of the previous days I'd definitely be in No Lynch mode still, but since there is I have no reason to be. I have eyes, I can still read, and I can still see patterns, even if I'm new.
If I haven't convinced you, then vote for me, but if I get lynched you'll be making a mistake, I guarantee it.
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - ChaoticCJ - 2014-05-28
Olsi Wrote:You make a good point, mafia would easily be able to sway votes, but at the moment it seems like they dont have to since people are being voted off rather quickly. Thing is polantaris could be mafia but he hasnt been here the whole time so it'll be hard. I think our best bet is him or Zelkova, thoughts ChaoticCJ;?
Polantaris is hard to read, but for me-it is too early to tell. Everyone seems focused on Zelkova, which is understandable because of Day 2's incident. I am with Verrkol in being wary of Niernen, but I can't tell if the aloof nature is forced or not. Right now it does seem like Zelkova is the main target. We have a few hours left, but I think most of our minds are set, unless something big happens. I am keeping my no lynch for now just in case something goes wrong, but will change it when it comes closer to lynch time.
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - VerrKol - 2014-05-28
[MENTION=6823]Polantaris[/MENTION]; You are very persuasive and I completely agree with your suspicions about Zelkova. I primarily wanted to get you talking a bit more before I made my decision.
[Vote A:] Zelkova
[MENTION=5555]Zelkova[/MENTION]; This would be the time to present some very convincing reasons if you want to live another day.
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - Shidoshi - 2014-05-28
I won't be home at the time to close the Day. Please respect the time and contact a mod if possible.
[MENTION=789]Five Second Pose[/MENTION];
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - Zelkova - 2014-05-28
Guys, you're going to be making a huge mistake if you continue to decide to lynch me. I can't say much but without me you will be making yourselves more vulnerable to the pirates in the future.
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - y0y0y0y0shi0 - 2014-05-28
Zelkova has a bad case of loving you?
I'd take Verrkol over Zelkova, btw.
And I'm suddenly afraid imagineall is a bad choice but pineapple it I have no real reason not to.
Two Island Mafia - Pirafia Win - Olsi - 2014-05-28
Zelkova Wrote:Guys, you're going to be making a huge mistake if you continue to decide to lynch me. I can't say much but without me you will be making yourselves more vulnerable to the pirates in the future.
You've made yourself hard to believe, what would you rather us do? Im a fan of hope myself