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Battle mage guide - Twilight - 2011-01-05
hadriel Wrote:Let us assume that there is a way to put SP from 3rd job to 2nd job. What would you put your points into? E.g. would you drop Reaper for more Blood Drain? Please share your opinions thanks.
Hadriel
I'd drop Reaper for Blue Aura and spillover into Adv Blue in a heart beat.
Battle mage guide - CrimsonJohnny - 2011-01-06
Does anyone know where our Stance books drop? Or are they the same as the warrior books? (I wish)
Battle mage guide - Twilight - 2011-01-06
CrimsonJohnny Wrote:Does anyone know where our Stance books drop? Or are they the same as the warrior books? (I wish)
Before the actual Resistance patch the Warrior books said they applied to Battlemages. Now they don't for some reason
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Battle mage guide - loANGELol - 2011-01-06
I think Mastery books drop rate has been reduced since BB.
Battle mage guide - loANGELol - 2011-01-06
hadriel Wrote:Let us assume that there is a way to put SP from 3rd job to 2nd job. What would you put your points into? E.g. would you drop Reaper for more Blood Drain? Please share your opinions thanks.
Hadriel
I don't find Reaper useful as all so definitely the skill to go.
I am surprised OP would max it over Adv Dark Chains.
Battle mage guide - ultimax21 - 2011-01-06
Bribery Wrote:Has anyone actually tested this? I just tried Conversion with Rex Earrings and it stacked (multiplied my HP by 2.1). I couldn't find anyone online with HB so I couldn't try it myself.
Conversion and HB are buffs so they don't exactly stack. When you use both the higher % stat takes over, so basically what you will have is 100% hp boost with a 60% mp boost from hb you don't get double advantages. Rex earrings and energize are not buffs and are passive so they apply before the buffs.
CrimsonJohnny Wrote:Does anyone know where our Stance books drop? Or are they the same as the warrior books? (I wish)
Stance books works for both warriors and battle mages. I worked a lvl 30 stance book recently myself from a warrior book and currently have lvl 18 stance at this time. The description says warrior only though but, still works just fine.
Battle mage guide - TLeviathan - 2011-01-06
ultimax21 Wrote:Conversion and HB are buffs so they don't exactly stack. When you use both the higher % stat takes over, so basically what you will have is 100% hp boost with a 60% mp boost from hb you don't get double advantages. Rex earrings and energize are not buffs and are passive so they apply before the buffs.
Higher stats unfortunately do not take over at the moment, except for specialized skills. A DK's hb can and will remove conversion from you and provide the 60% hp boost. I believe that's supposed to change eventually, but atm I'm still getting mine canceled when I'm with a DK.
Battle mage guide - HellenzSin - 2011-01-06
Reaper feels useful only if you have a godly atk range. That way the summons can actually solo plats. Otherwise, it's really not worth it.
Battle mage guide - hadriel - 2011-01-06
I was thinking more about bossing DPS actually, when the 1HKO wouldn't matter. To get the 1HKO to become significant, that would require... killing monsters above the hundreds, close to the thousands for the first significant target to be hit. Not that it's unhelpful during training because you surely will kill so many when you train.
Hadriel
Battle mage guide - MyMind - 2011-01-06
I don't know if it was asked before but.... after maxing Battle Mastery, critical rate still at 45% and no boost on attack range
Battle mage guide - xLuxMentisx - 2011-01-06
iirc, battle mastery raises min crit damage, which means your crit rate is unchanged. and I was under the impression that the 30% increase in damage dealt wouldn't show on your range itself, but instead act like a multiplier like similar abilities (amp, elemental advantage, (old) ewands, etc.) and show in the damage dealt to monsters instead
Battle mage guide - Furnost - 2011-01-06
TLeviathan Wrote:Higher stats unfortunately do not take over at the moment, except for specialized skills. A DK's hb can and will remove conversion from you and provide the 60% hp boost. I believe that's supposed to change eventually, but atm I'm still getting mine canceled when I'm with a DK.
False statement. I was at cwkpq a week ago and used Conversion then my friend used HB and the only thing that changed was my MP...I did not get an HP reduction when I received HB. HOWEVER, when my Conversion went away, if I still had HB on it would go back down to the HB HP not my base...it essentially just does the higher of the two bonuses so once conversion gives a greater HP boost than HB, there is no need for us to need HB let alone worry about it canceling out Conversion.
On another note, if you were looking for Inspirational videos for the guide this thread has a few (I posted one up of my Btm when it was lvl 122, and there is another one there from KMS of a lvl 200 soloing Zakum which I found amazing).
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=36760
Currently I am level 127 and my build for 4th job is as follows:
10 Energize
9 Stance
1 Finishing Blow
1 Twister Spin
1 Dark Genesis
1 Adv. Dark Aura
1 Party Shield (can replace this with w/e you like, I just like the way it looks and it's somewhat useful at boss runs)
Battle mage guide - TLeviathan - 2011-01-06
Furnost Wrote:I was at cwkpq a week ago and used Conversion then my friend used HB and the only thing that changed was my MP...
*Shrug* Could have sworn it was canceling mine a few weeks ago.
Battle mage guide - loANGELol - 2011-01-07
@ Furnost: Interesting build.
Battle mage guide - Deretto - 2011-01-07
Most likely for bossing. Does the HP bonus from Energize get doubled with Conversion?
Battle mage guide - Sparky242 - 2011-01-07
^ Hmm, I'm pretty sure the boosts are independent of each other, so you'd get 120% extra HP.
Battle mage guide - FoolsLove - 2011-01-07
HellenzSin Wrote:Reaper feels useful only if you have a godly atk range. That way the summons can actually solo plats. Otherwise, it's really not worth it.I rather like Reaper. Mine's only Lv13 at the moment, but even below that I found it somewhat useful while training. Helped take away some HP, so when I got back around to that part of a map I'd kill quicker. I actually see a 0.5% increase per 8 minutes with a lower level Reaper than without it, and that was when it was at Lv10.
MyMind Wrote:I don't know if it was asked before but.... after maxing Battle Mastery, critical rate still at 45% and no boost on attack rangeBattle Mastery just increases the minimum damage you can do when you crit, IIRC.
Battle mage guide - HooKarez - 2011-01-07
I have maxed Reaper. And I like it just because it's funny. I had 8 Reapers going at once on the bottom of MP3 doing like 20~30k damage. It's pretty nice. Also Battle Mastery is a flat multiplier for your damage. Multiplies your attacks by 130% I believe. That along with the increase in minimum critical damage.
Battle mage guide - Secun - 2011-01-07
Battle Mastery Lv 20 : Damage: 30%, Minimum Critical Damage: +20%
I also haven't noticed an increase to my range when putting points in, though.
I hope to god Nexon didn't code this as a bonus to DAMAGE (physical only) instead of Magic... Wouldn't be surprised, though.
Battle mage guide - hadriel - 2011-01-07
Reapers might make good DPS addition for bosses like Papu. It's quite amazing once you have 6 reapers hitting him every 3 seconds.
Hadriel