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Post your games! - chrome - 2014-01-03
![[Image: syndra.png]](https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7832677/League%20of%20Legends/syndra.png)
yaaaaaay
Almost got a penta at the first dragon fight. :_;
Post your games! - Five Second Pose - 2014-01-03
OmegazeroGA Wrote:Tried out Varus for the first time in a reg match, and had no clue what to build whatsoever...This was the result.
![[Image: VarusTime2ThePlays.png]](http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q492/ClassicAce/VarusTime2ThePlays.png)
Runaan's is one of the most fringe-useful items in this game. Don't buy it. Spirit of the Lizard Elder is a jungle item and Varus doesn't really make use of it. Don't buy it. You need a Last Whisper on AD carries to ensure that you keep doing damage through armour. I play Varus in three different ways, personally. If I'm mostly autoing in lane I get an Infinity Edge first, if I'm mostly casting spells in lane I get Bloodthirster first, and there are some games that I feel a Blade of the Ruined King is a good first buy but those are mostly edge cases.
Post your games! - Corn - 2014-01-03
AD Carry build are usually something like (with boots -> Berzerker's Greaves tossed in there somewhere)
Doran's Blade -> Bloodthirster -> Zeal -> Last Whisper(ER) -> Phantom Dancer/Statikk Shiv
or
Doran's Blade -> Infintiy Edge -> Zeal -> Last Whisper -> Phantom Dancer/Statikk Shiv
Of course there's also the few oddballs, like Vayne and BotRK and Lucian and Triforce and Blue Ezreal, but the above is a good rule of thumb.
Post your games! - OmegazeroGA - 2014-01-03
Five Second Pose Wrote:Runaan's is one of the most fringe-useful items in this game. Don't buy it. Spirit of the Lizard Elder is a jungle item and Varus doesn't really make use of it. Don't buy it. You need a Last Whisper on AD carries to ensure that you keep doing damage through armour. I play Varus in three different ways, personally. If I'm mostly autoing in lane I get an Infinity Edge first, if I'm mostly casting spells in lane I get Bloodthirster first, and there are some games that I feel a Blade of the Ruined King is a good first buy but those are mostly edge cases.Well thanks. I'm getting way too cocky at this game for my own good as is. Kinda of a odd thing tho, all the matches proceeding this had opposing marksmen using Runaan's and so did my team, and it became like a heated debate on it's usefulness. Also the Spirit was just a crazy experimental thought I had, which later after I highly regretted. The entire match was a crazy experiment, as is...Maybe I was going for atk speed or something, beats me. Still becoming way too cocky.
Post your games! - Mandalay - 2014-01-03
[MENTION=7329]OmegazeroGA[/MENTION];
The reasoning behind Runaan's not being as useful is because for 2400 gold, all you get is 70% attack speed and on-hit split bolts (two "stats").
For only 100 more gold for Statikk Shiv, you get good wave clear, 20% critical, and a little bit of movement speed at the cost of 30% less attack speed.*
For 400 more gold on Phantom Dancer, you get 30% critical strike, a bit of movement speed, and no unit collision (!!!) at the cost of only 20% less attack speed than Runaan's.
*The downside to Shiv is that it's not as good on single-target DPS like PD is (so Shiv peaks in mid-game and then falls off late-game when single-target DPS > multi-target DPS as an ADC)
TL;DR - there's more cost
tat efficient items than Runaan's.Edit: Reasoning behind Last Whisper being crucial as an ADC's third item (usually) is because this is around the time that tanks start building armor. Read its passive if you don't understand. Anyone who thinks LW is used for its AD did not read the power of its passive.
Post your games! - chrome - 2014-01-03
Corn Wrote:postThis is right. You get a feel for what to build depending on what kind of ADC you're playing/how the lane went/team comps etc. as you gain more experience. I'll try to explain them:
Last Whisper: If they're absolutely stacking armor, get this second. If they have armor in general, get it third. If they don't have armor, skip it until they do.
Blade of the Ruined King: If you need self-peel (like if their frontline is able to stick on you and you can't get away even if your team tries to help), if they're stacking health (Warmog's, Sunfire, Randuin's). Generally avoid on champions like Jinx, Caitlyn, and Ashe. Some ADCs absolutely need BoRK (Quinn and Vayne, somtimes Kog and Graves) because it complements some part of their kit (Silver Bolts, Caustic Spittle/Bio-Arcane Barrage) or because they need the burst it provides to win a duel (Graves, Quinn).
Bloodthirster and Infinity Edge: These are the two most common first-item choices you'll see on an ADC, though BT is becoming more popular than IE now. People build BT/IE first because they're huge damage spikes. The difference between them is that BT is more of an immediate damage spike (+100 AD/18% lifesteal at full stacks), and IE is a late-game item, most effective when you have high crit/AS with a Zeal item. BT is a core item on champions that scale hard with AD (Jinx, Varus, Lucian), and IE is a core item on champions with a late-game spike (Tristana, Kog'Maw, Twitch). Some champions can go both ways, depending on the situation (Caitlyn, Ashe).
Zeal: There's not much explaining to do here. Once you have an AD item, Zeal gives you AS/crit that amplifies your DPS. PD/SS is generally preference, but PD > Shiv for DPS and dueling, and Shiv > PD for waveclear/utility/a bit of extra burst in fights.
Trinity Force: Only build this if you're playing an ADC that casts a lot of spells. Ezreal's Q applies instant Sheen, so he becomes bursty as hell after he gets it. Same applies with Corki once he hits level 6. Ezreal is a unique case because of Mystic Shot, but Corki/Lucian use it well because they use their spells a lot. All of these ADCs benefit fully from Tri's odd stats (AP and mana).
There's also the issue of defensive items:
Quicksilver Sash: If you get CCed and are going to die because of it, this gives you a cleanse and lets you avoid that. Because of the nature of ADCs, QSS into Mercurial is usually the best defensive item choice.
Banshee's Veil: Usually a worse choice than QSS, but it's better against hard displacement like Blitz or really good poke like Nidalee.
Randuin's Omen: Mostly for heavy AD comps that want to dive you a lot.
Guardian Angel: If a lot of your damage is up-front and you know you'll die early in a fight, or if your team is a dive comp and can't be bothered to peel for you.
Warmog's: Kha'Zix, Katarina, also if the other team doesn't know what health shred is.
Frozen Mallet: ...you know there's really no reason to get this anymore since BoRK exists, but I guess if you need to kite better.
Post your games! - Pikachu - 2014-01-03
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Well, I'm back in Gold 3...
Post your games! - Five Second Pose - 2014-01-03
OmegazeroGA Wrote:Kinda of a odd thing tho, all the matches proceeding this had opposing marksmen using Runaan's and so did my team, and it became like a heated debate on it's usefulness.
It's a noob trap item. AD champions are the only ones with multiplicative scaling because mages can't crit. Attack speed is CDR for autoattacks. You wouldn't just get max CDR before getting damage, would you? You wouldn't buy an item that only gave CDR, would you?
Mandalay Wrote:*The downside to Shiv is that it's not as good on single-target DPS like PD is (so Shiv peaks in mid-game and then falls off late-game when single-target DPS > multi-target DPS as an ADC)
Edit: Reasoning behind Last Whisper being crucial as an ADC's third item (usually) is because this is around the time that tanks start building armor. Read its passive if you don't understand. Anyone who thinks LW is used for its AD did not read the power of its passive.
Shiv also has more movement speed, adds magic damage, and is wave clear. It's not as simple as "oh it falls off late game".
It's not just tanks building armour, built-in armour scaling also becomes a bigger factor at that point as well. I've been a long-standing proponent of increasing % pen on LW but only making it work on bonus armour like Yasuo's ult.
Post your games! - Jamesie - 2014-01-04
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I s2g this team was so stupid. Hecarim at the end tried to bum rush the Nexus, but the Inhib had respawned so he couldn't. But apparently he didn't catch that memo because he tried anyways.
Post your games! - Mandalay - 2014-01-04
Five Second Pose Wrote:Shiv also has more movement speed, adds magic damage, and is wave clear. It's not as simple as "oh it falls off late game".
Probably not, but I loosely based it on this article after seeing hi im gosu go for Shiv on Vayne then sell it off later for PD which got me curious about it.
"falls off late game" was a poor word choice on my part.
Post your games! - Five Second Pose - 2014-01-04
Mandalay Wrote:Probably not, but I loosely based it on this article after seeing hi im gosu go for Shiv on Vayne then sell it off later for PD which got me curious about it.
"falls off late game" was a poor word choice on my part.
It's cheaper so it's an earlier power spike, that's another factor. Vayne makes better use of PD's stats because of Silver Bolts and Tumble.
Post your games! - Mandalay - 2014-01-08
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Currently trying different builds, runes, masteries, and summoner spells on Kat to try and master her.
Sad that I didn't get to test a DFG build nor roam post-6 because Yasuo.
Edit:
![[Image: 1MeoDUC.png]](http://i.imgur.com/1MeoDUC.png)
Jesus. Jinx can snowball so hard, it's ridiculous. Would be surprised if she does not keep getting nerfed.
Post your games! - Abrasive - 2014-01-08
Did 2 of my placement matches today
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Post your games! - PeePeeAyeDeeKay - 2014-01-10
Haven't had such a good round in so long, where it's not one sided..
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Post your games! - Abrasive - 2014-01-11
First time trying Lucian
![[Image: 6gRlX.jpg]](http://puu.sh/6gRlX.jpg)
Post your games! - Foxino - 2014-01-11
That sona pentakill tho.
![[Image: 6h2Gw.jpg]](http://puu.sh/6h2Gw.jpg)
Post your games! - Five Second Pose - 2014-01-11
[IMGSPOILER=so this happened.]http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x112/Rayquaza2233/pentaoutof10_zps2b4bcc3c.png[/IMGSPOILER]
Post your games! - Mandalay - 2014-01-12
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Post your games! - Mute - 2014-01-12
I really like Vayne now.
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Post your games! - Pikachu - 2014-01-12
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