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Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - HighOnMushrooms - 2009-11-30

Which is better, Death Dust or Snow Dust?


Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - FelixTM - 2009-11-30

HighOnMushrooms Wrote:Which is better, Death Dust or Snow Dust?

Almost everyone agrees Death Dust is better. Myself included. Snow Dust really sucks for PvP if you plan on air juggling a lot, which you will if you want to win. If you freeze your target, they fall to the ground and mess up your juggle instantly. It's bad stuff. Plus, Death Dust is stronger.

For dungeons, though, it honestly doesn't matter much. I was using 3 Snow Dust and 1 Death Dust back and forth constantly in every later dungeon. The important thing is turning your broom into a magic attack.


Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - Zephyr - 2009-11-30

Any way to get out of the juggle of death of witches? if he catches me I'm pretty much dead thanks to the ungodly phase shift delay...


Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - FelixTM - 2009-11-30

Zephyr Wrote:Any way to get out of the juggle of death of witches? if he catches me I'm pretty much dead thanks to the ungodly phase shift delay...

Avoid it. I don't know of all the skills in the game, but I can't think of any besides Phase Shift that will allow you to escape once you're trapped in it. If you get caught in the juggle + swatter, you just have to take it and prevent it from happening again. Quick Rebound once you're free to avoid getting set up immediately after.

I played against many opponents (of varying classes) who were insanely hard to juggle. They either massively overpowered me or avoided getting juggled several times. People that move around the axes erratically are especially hard to catch. That's probably the best avoidance advice there is. The alternative is to be so aggressive that they have to be defensive. That's how people usually got me.


Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - Mark - 2009-11-30

Zephyr Wrote:Any way to get out of the juggle of death of witches? if he catches me I'm pretty much dead thanks to the ungodly phase shift delay...

Yeah. Be an Exorcist and spam White Tiger and Black Tortoise.

Everyone loves my puppy.


Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - Zephyr - 2009-11-30

Yeah, moving out of the X axis helps... except when he uses mantle... i swear that pomegranate has an incredible 360 degrees effect... he caught me BEHIND him...


At least now i got stabbing wheel... good bye mantle super armor... i hope :<


God i wish i had light chaser... neutral chaser is a nono since i can combo him wtih x


Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - FelixTM - 2009-11-30

Zephyr Wrote:At least now i got stabbing wheel... good bye mantle super armor... i hope

Manteau doesn't have super armor frames currently. It has invincible frames. You won't be able to touch him while he's doing it. It's part of the reason it rocks so much. One of the only counters I have against all the super armor/savage combo heavy opponents I have to face...


Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - Dusk - 2009-12-01

You can only juggle people so many times. After a while they'll land on the ground.


Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - mrcowcow - 2009-12-01

Sigh. Guess I'm not all cut out for PvP; I just don't like it since I'm too used to cooldowns and mechanics of PvM. Might as well farm a mule for the 1k points for the Awakening. :X

Is anyone having trouble connecting to Arad Society? I can't seem to connect to it. >.>


Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - Dyxanije - 2009-12-01

mrcowcow Wrote:Is anyone having trouble connecting to Arad Society? I can't seem to connect to it. >.>

It is down.


Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - Zephyr - 2009-12-01

FelixTM Wrote:Manteau doesn't have super armor frames currently. It has invincible frames. You won't be able to touch him while he's doing it. It's part of the reason it rocks so much. One of the only counters I have against all the super armor/savage combo heavy opponents I have to face...

For some reason in DnF it has super armor frames... its pineappleing stupid...

Also for some stupid reason my chasers have a HUGE cooldown in pvp...

Dusk Wrote:You can only juggle people so many times. After a while they'll land on the ground.



Oddly enough once i do the damage heavy landing he can juggle me again...


Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - Jormungandr - 2009-12-01

Zephyr Wrote:For some reason in DnF it has super armor frames... its pineappleing stupid...

Also for some stupid reason my chasers have a HUGE cooldown in pvp...

Are you using a spear or a pole?


Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - Zephyr - 2009-12-01

Tried both, same delay.


Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - FelixTM - 2009-12-01

Zephyr Wrote:For some reason in DnF it has super armor frames... its pineappleing stupid...

Oh, right. I forgot you played DnF. That's one of the stupid changes they made in the "Witch patch." Not looking forward to it.


Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - MasPan - 2009-12-01

FelixTM Wrote:Oh, right. I forgot you played DnF. That's one of the stupid changes they made in the "Witch patch." Not looking forward to it.
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It is sad, because almost all other grabs are invince, not sa. Guess because it's such a massive range/grouping, they decided to make it otherwise.[/COLOR]


Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - Holypie - 2009-12-01

But Witch patch has lots of good things too like Library Int bonus and max friendly=100% success!


Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - FelixTM - 2009-12-01

Holypie Wrote:But Witch patch has lots of good things too like Library Int bonus and max friendly=100% success!

I disagree. I don't see anything worth noting other than the max Friendly. Library is not something I will ever get. It's mainly just a patch to nerf Witches for no apparent reason. It's stupid and makes no sense.


Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - Jormungandr - 2009-12-01

[COLOR="Teal"]I just got raped by Isadora on expert >.>
Spent all 3 tokens there and she just killed me at the end D:[/COLOR]


Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - Dusk - 2009-12-01

FelixTM Wrote:I disagree. I don't see anything worth noting other than the max Friendly. Library is not something I will ever get. It's mainly just a patch to nerf Witches for no apparent reason. It's stupid and makes no sense.

Everything I've heard about the Witch patch has been positive other than the Manteau thing. Buffs to the fire spells, casting speed on leather armor mastery, flyswatter buff, and I forget what else. I agree with Library being useless anyway.


Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread - whybanme - 2009-12-01

I have a level 21 Grappler right now. I like it a lot, but I'm still a noob. I'm sure I'm missing something, and I'm sure my equips are horrible, but whatever.

Also, how do they expect me to survive Dragonoid Nest King's Road by myself with G.S.D.? @_@