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Original Dragon Nest Thread - DrRusty - 2011-11-07

案山子 Wrote:Virtually the same if you're going hybrid, however Gladiator is far more powerful because it uses Physical Damage instead of Magic Damage. Magic Damage doesn't increase as much as Physical for a Swordsman, and your weapons will always enhance for far more Physical than Magical.

What build did you go for?

The ones I looked up all had the "moonlord" build not going for hacking stance and instead going for halfmoon slash

The build I made for myself was exactly the same as Vice's except I put a point into line drive


Original Dragon Nest Thread - Alilatias - 2011-11-07

PervyLion Wrote:Finally got around playing again but i was curious. What are some of the better dungeons after 27? For faster lving that is. I kind of want to be 31 for my lv 30 nx set and lv 31 gear i bought.

Paladin btw if it helps.

All of the Saint's Haven dungeons thus far hand out the same amount of EXP after completion. The amount of EXP that comissions hand out still varies though, in which doing Black Sovereign Domain or Stronghold would yield the most EXP. Assembly's comissions hand out more EXP than the actual dungeon itself, but the dungeon takes much longer to complete than the two earlier Black Sovereign dungeons.

Generally, most of the EXP comes from questing now, unless you are willing to go on repeated runs of the same dungeon with an Abyss party. I would probably try to complete all of the current Saint's Haven quests, because I wouldn't be surprised at all if a lot of them were pre-requisites for new quests aimed at the 40 cap (especially quests given out by NPCs that you cannot befriend at the current level cap).


Original Dragon Nest Thread - Kaasoljoyyx - 2011-11-07

PervyLion Wrote:Finally got around playing again but i was curious. What are some of the better dungeons after 27? For faster lving that is. I kind of want to be 31 for my lv 30 nx set and lv 31 gear i bought.

Paladin btw if it helps.

Best grind exp spot is stronghold at level 28+


Original Dragon Nest Thread - Secun - 2011-11-07

Anyone that knows better mind rating my Lunar Knight build?

http://dnarmory.com/skill-calc?c=1&sc=11&tc=24&ll=50#RHT7Q8rfZsc34glMHfV

I like to have a lot of skills so I don't get stuck on cd, and I don't think this build is too awful bad since I don't think I've skimped too much on my important skills.

EDIT: Another question, anyone in Gerrant know how much a Quality Skill Fireball (Elementalist) or Quality Skill Tumbling Shot (Sharpshooter) go for?


Original Dragon Nest Thread - Mibs - 2011-11-07

Wow, did not know frozen spikes had DoT >_>. Don't know how I missed that.
I always use it after icy shards, so they have something nice to land on after they've been launched.


Original Dragon Nest Thread - EarthAdept2 - 2011-11-08

So uh. I reinstalled my client and everything. I still don't see the Halloween set. `-`.

I can get the event stuff now but the vault still hasn't updated for me apparently?

Oh and does anyone know when the pumpkin head event expires?


Original Dragon Nest Thread - 案山子 - 2011-11-08

DrRusty Wrote:What build did you go for?

The ones I looked up all had the "moonlord" build not going for hacking stance and instead going for halfmoon slash

The build I made for myself was exactly the same as Vice's except I put a point into line drive

I use my own builds, which I have to say are no-BS builds. Nothing that doesn't need to be leveled is leveled, and everything that should be is, and to what point it should be. I'll be more than happy to explain my builds with a tad bit more detail if anyone wants, so if you're wondering why I chose to do certain things just ask.

Moonlord: http://dnarmory.com/skill-calc?c=1&sc=11&tc=24&ll=50#Vlc1nG6uo-qr85ZfIUV

Gladiator: http://dnarmory.com/skill-calc?c=1&sc=11&tc=23&ll=50#-z7eRDu8QK2Ae8aWIUV

I'll note for Gladiator right now though:
(1) Leveling Triple Slash is entirely optional. Triple Slash EX does NOT increase it's damage, only it's utility by changing HOW the attack works. Level Triple only if you want this, and don't if you don't.
(2) Leveling Evasion Slash is completely optional as it as almost never used, realistically, in PvE.

Now for Lv32 builds since that's more relevant:

Moonlord/Gladiator (They will share this exact same build for Lv32 cap): http://dnarmory.com/skill-calc?c=1&sc=11&tc=24&ll=32#b.35DFLtK8wKjRceHR

Notes for Lv32 cap:
(1) Learning Dash Slash and/or Dash Combo will screw you over if you want to follow this build. It CANNOT BE DONE. (No SP)
(2) Don't level your ''main'' skills; i.e. Moonlight Splitter or Triple Slash beyond prerequisite levels as you will only have enough SP at the end to level one of them just once. It's not worth it, wait till level Lv40 cap.

General note: My builds are PURELY PVE!, so if you want PvP advice, tips, cheatcodes, etc, do NOT come to me for any of that as I have 0 experience in it.


Original Dragon Nest Thread - DrRusty - 2011-11-08

I feel like I have no control over my character as a swordsman since every friggin attack makes you go forward. If you rush in with a triple slash, you're basically asking to get yourself surrounded since it moves the mobs in an arc around you. It'll probably change once I get higher level and get more ranged abilities or I can change my own playstyle. I'll get used to it eventually like I did with my crossbow on my archer.

Edit - that was solved pretty quickly lol. Getting dash combo and the 6th point in rising slash was pretty huge.


Original Dragon Nest Thread - ShinkuDragon - 2011-11-08

DrRusty Wrote:I feel like I have no control over my character as a swordsman since every friggin attack makes you go forward. If you rush in with a triple slash, you're basically asking to get yourself surrounded since it moves the mobs in an arc around you. It'll probably change once I get higher level and get more ranged abilities or I can change my own playstyle. I'll get used to it eventually like I did with my crossbow on my archer.

Edit - that was solved pretty quickly lol. Getting dash combo and the 6th point in rising slash was pretty huge.
you can use it like if you were trimming a bush, not going to the center, but rather around the borders of the mob. but yea, i like slash combo actually, so pweety. and if you think triple slash's bad, wait until you get that thrust skill lol, use it from too close and it's like jumping to the middle., however, following with a ground smash is usually good enough to escape uscathed.


Original Dragon Nest Thread - Secun - 2011-11-08

案山子 Wrote:Gladiator: http://dnarmory.com/skill-calc?c=1&sc=11&tc=23&ll=50#-z7e9ue89pQzIvYRcUV

Might need to adjust this build a bit. It says you have 509/500 SP used.


Original Dragon Nest Thread - 案山子 - 2011-11-09

Secun Wrote:Might need to adjust this build a bit. It says you have 509/500 SP used.

Oops, I think dnarmory derped and mixed two builds I was looking at into that one. (Somehow, since there's no other way to get past the SP cap otherwise as far as I know. Would also explain how I ended up having skills learned in that that I would never put myself.)

I'll redo it.

Edit: Should be fixed now.


Original Dragon Nest Thread - DrRusty - 2011-11-09

ShinkuDragon Wrote:you can use it like if you were trimming a bush, not going to the center, but rather around the borders of the mob. but yea, i like slash combo actually, so pweety. and if you think triple slash's bad, wait until you get that thrust skill lol, use it from too close and it's like jumping to the middle., however, following with a ground smash is usually good enough to escape uscathed.

It's definitely harder to kill a group of mobs as a swordmaster since your attacks seem to push the mobs everywhere and don't hit for huge chunks at a time like a merc. On my merc I can pretty much run in with a circle swing -> stomp and a group of mobs will almost be dead.


Original Dragon Nest Thread - 案山子 - 2011-11-09

DrRusty Wrote:It's definitely harder to kill a group of mobs as a swordmaster since your attacks seem to push the mobs everywhere and don't hit for huge chunks at a time like a merc. On my merc I can pretty much run in with a circle swing -> stomp and a group of mobs will almost be dead.

You muss wern to mastah teh sodmon!

Chin


Original Dragon Nest Thread - Secun - 2011-11-09

Well, I've found that stalking the market for Crude Diamond Sparks (Epic) below 560g is a decent profit-maker cause you can just hold on to them and resell for 590-600g when the supply runs down.


Original Dragon Nest Thread - ShinkuDragon - 2011-11-09

Secun Wrote:Well, I've found that stalking the market for Crude Diamond Sparks (Epic) below 560g is a decent profit-maker cause you can just hold on to them and resell for 590-600g when the supply runs down.
i did that with crude onyx lol, the botters define the price pretty much.


Original Dragon Nest Thread - DrRusty - 2011-11-09

Secun Wrote:Well, I've found that stalking the market for Crude Diamond Sparks (Epic) below 560g is a decent profit-maker cause you can just hold on to them and resell for 590-600g when the supply runs down.

You can pretty much buy anything saturday night/all of sunday and resell it later in the week for more.


Original Dragon Nest Thread - Secun - 2011-11-09

DrRusty Wrote:You can pretty much buy anything saturday night/all of sunday and resell it later in the week for more.

Good to know. That'll help when I'm looking for rarer Crests.


Original Dragon Nest Thread - Alilatias - 2011-11-09

Got my Acrobat to 21. They are fun as hell. They need a lot of control though, which is something I didn't really have much of during my first try as an Acrobat during open beta. (Well, that and I really screwed up my build back then, no multi-shot was a terrible idea.)


Original Dragon Nest Thread - Kaasoljoyyx - 2011-11-10

Secun Wrote:Might need to adjust this build a bit. It says you have 509/500 SP used.

I think with the dual ultimate system, the conditions are

500 total --> 509 total

312/job --> 318/job

For level 50.

And the builds he listed are both great for PvE. It's the first time I've ever seen dash slash + dash combo dropped though but I guess it's not needed. My merc doesn't have it yet it's fine so unless it grants some sort of invincibility frames, I might drop it as well on my SMs.


Original Dragon Nest Thread - 案山子 - 2011-11-10

Kaasoljoyyx Wrote:It's the first time I've ever seen dash slash + dash combo dropped though but I guess it's not needed. My merc doesn't have it yet it's fine so unless it grants some sort of invincibility frames, I might drop it as well on my SMs.

Dash Slash/Combo are great at lower levels, but they're never learned for damage, only their usefulness against mobs. (That's why builds are never seen with them past Lv1) At higher levels where more SP/skills are available Slash/Combo are no longer as useful as the other options you have.

I dropped them entirely to allow myself to learn/level skills that I found far more useful against mobs, and even more powerful.