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Crimsonwood Keep Bonus Drop List - shouri - 2009-03-23
Kevo Wrote:Bishops are a support class. Why do we get a bunch of support skills rather than Meditation.
Meditation is a support skill. As a support class, shouldn't WE have gotten meditation instead? You know... to SUPPORT A/Ms with a slight damage boost. Granted if we really wanted to be a good support, we'd have to be able to use a meditation that gives like 40 or 50 matt at the very least.
I think Bishops got Genesis because it was supposed to be unfair otherwise due to Blizzard and Meteor.
I hope Genesis 30 goes back to 1bil+ meso again. Way to easy to get it now...
Meteo 30 - cheap
blizzard 30- cheap
Gen 30- omfg its too easy to get even though it costs 5x as much as the other two. make it cost like another 5x as much plz.
By the way, support classes are supposed to have GOOD support skills that other classes will always be requesting due to its use. So far (at least coming to mind) I count a whole ONE. Holy symbol. Dispel is over in a corner hiding somewhere, but its there, sorta.
Bless- can be done without
Heal- since when (in a training party) do we see "Why haven't you healed me?" from serious players? Because its not THAT great. Useful at bosses to an extent, but its nothing that others can't take care of themselves.
Holy shield- It sees some use. Key word: some. You don't see anyone complaining at you if you chose not to max this any time soon.
Resurrection- Before you start biting back at me for this one, yes i DO realize how great it is to be able to revive people in this game. But if you're really looking for bishops to be a "support" class, then only being able to use this excellent example of a support once every 30 minutes is a bit of a downer. We may have been the ultimate support at Pink Bean final stage, where ranged characters are practically guaranteed death as of now, if we could resurrect as often as possible or maybe with 1 minute cooldowns (that way people don't get sent back to town).
Better support skills out there:
Hyper body: Survivability is an awesome thing to have especially with the laughable HP that non washed archers and sins end up with. This alone almost makes DKs a better supporting class.
Sharp Eyes: This gives a huge boost to sins and archers. Even Buccaneer's get a great boost from this (though its not as great because we cant abuse it as quickly as sins or archers, but still).
I'm not saying bishops should've gotten either of the above, but I instead would like to point out that a "support class" should be getting some of the best support skills. Go ahead and nerf genesis down to a total of 300 base attack at max, but give me the following party support skills:
1)half mp cost for everyone (AMs would be more than ecstatic to party us)
2)% magical damage reduction or reflection (mana reflection party skill perhaps?
3)Buff that nullifies the next X physical hits with a 10 minute cooldown. Maybe like 2 or 3 hits?
4)+60 or higher matt boost (for boosting AMs)
5)Hyper Regen- Boosts everyone's HP/MP recovery time to like 3-4 second intervals and increases the amount to a respectable size; at the same time, allow for hp regen to work while moving. This is a buff that'd further make us useful while training and people would want us to be there to... get this.... support!
Give me these and a few more and then I'll gladly call my bishop a support class.
I'll leave it at that, if you wish to retort, feel free. But at least realize that my point of view is at least partially correct. Though it wont happen. Bishops will still be called support classes by some even though we don't have the best buffs out there, save for 1 or 2. Besides that, we have pitiful buffs that training parties will almost never ask us for.
Though back on the topic: Why haven't we seen any SSs of E-wand 8 T.T I could really use one for my bishop :3
Crimsonwood Keep Bonus Drop List - DrRusty - 2009-03-23
wait wut? bless, rez, holy shield, and heal don't make bishops a support class? lol ........
what about dispel, magic door, and holy symbol? DKs have HB so they're more supportive than bishops? Archers got SE, I guess they're more supportive? What about thieve's haste? Speed infuse? That's kinda funny lol
Kevin's right.... bishops got it wayyy too easy nowadays. This PQ doesn't help either.
Crimsonwood Keep Bonus Drop List - Joe.2 - 2009-03-23
Bishops are spoiled my ass.
As opposed to every bishop bandwagoner that's 1hko'ing skeles out there, I actually leveled mine when there was no leech, no lukless equips and the only 2 pqs were kerning and ludi. I got to 130 as a priest, and had a hard time getting partied anywhere when everyone decided to make hs mules. I consider my bishop was actually a challenge to level, unlike others.
I haven't been in a HT squad for months because i can't find one that will fit my schedule. I didn't get my gen from event because i didn't feel like spending over 20 bucks on getting a skill.
How exactly are bishops getting it 'easier' when every damn 30 skillbook drops in bonus, not to mention the taos to make furies for Nexon's favourite class.
I've earned everything (zhelm, pendant, level, skills) on my bishop, and I've had a hard time getting to where I am, Is a 60-70m Gen too much to ask?
Crimsonwood Keep Bonus Drop List - DrRusty - 2009-03-23
I also level'd my bishop (and all my other chars for that matter) the old fashioned way. I was lvl 137 when 4th job came out, and lvl 75 when 3rd job came out. I had to HT 15 times just to get my pendant. Now people got things so much easier...... Then they complain that it's too hard? gimme a fkin break
and yes. bishops are spoiled up the ass. Some of us who worked for what we got don't like the fact the everything is being handed out to everyone now. I wouldn't complain that people are spoiled now if they didn't complain first about shiet being too hard for them..... Noobs today have no idea what a challenge is.
Crimsonwood Keep Bonus Drop List - Antonie - 2009-03-23
more soon
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from now on i will just edit my post and only post once in a week a new one if i get new items
ss for burning book of fire
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Crimsonwood Keep Bonus Drop List - Kevo - 2009-03-23
To shouri:
If Bishop got all those wonderful skills that you mentioned, then our job would be way too easy and unbalance the game.
What if Bishops got HB or SE instead of the Dark Knight and Bowmaster? I don't know why Hyper Body exists but I don't think it was created to make Dragon Knights an equivalent to Priests. Archers definitely needed a support skill and can you imagine Archers without Sharp Eyes?
It looks like you're trying to say we should receive all party skills... The thing is there isn't enough SP to create more support skills.
To Joe.2:
You obviously haven't tried an Archer or White Knight pre 4th job. Priests have it SO easy compared to most other classes, even during pre 4th job period. If you can't get into a HT squad, that's your problem. I couldn't exactly get into HT at my preferred time since I didn't have connections to the groups that went during those times back then. I went to daily 3-4 AM HT Runs (sometimes doubling) with class at 8am. Unless you experience something like that you can't complain.
Like I said, it's so simple. Just sell leech. If you're against it then you're being stubborn and it's almost like you expect Gen30 to be handed to you on a platter. I could earn the money to get a Gen 30 within a week of leech selling (it's more expensive in Scania).
I also do not recall Assassinate 30 being dropped from the CWK PQ, and Genesis 30 is infinitely more easy to obtain compared to Assassinate 30.
And finally, yes 60-70mil for Gen30 is too much to ask. There's too many Bishops. High demand, and not a high supply. You remind me of those poor Arch Mages that complain that they can't get Elemental Wands. Maybe if you actually tried making money instead of complaining...
Crimsonwood Keep Bonus Drop List - Chameleonic - 2009-03-23
Berzerk Wrote:New Capes!
Crimsonheart Cloak[INDENT]- Lvl: 90
- Specs: +5 all stats
- Requirements: N/A
- Tradeable
- Slots: 5[/INDENT]
I saw a Crimsonheart Cloak in the FM that had +4 to everything and 6 slots.:f6:
Crimsonwood Keep Bonus Drop List - Harrisonized - 2009-03-23
Kevo Wrote:And finally, yes 60-70mil for Gen30 is too much to ask. There's too many Bishops. High demand, and not a high supply. You remind me of those poor Arch Mages that complain that they can't get Elemental Wands. Maybe if you actually tried making money instead of complaining...I've built everything I had from scratch, without the aid of buying NX, without the aid of buying 2x exp cards, and I still see people complaining, which has basically taught me that human jealousy will never allow people to stop complaining.
Just ignore people who complain. They'll stop complaining eventually when they get Gen30 and suddenly experience a change of heart. Unfortunately, the complaints will be a never ending cycle: people who want the Gen 30 hope that it's cheaper, people who already have Gen 30 don't want more people to get them.
Chameleonic Wrote:I saw a Crimsonheart Cloak in the FM that had +4 to everything and 6 slots.:f6:Screenshot it the next time you find it in the FM.
Crimsonwood Keep Bonus Drop List - WizOaks - 2009-03-23
Whats all the change of topic to Bishops now? i thought this was suposed to be about the Bonus Droplist..
We have it easy. period
If Gen 30 was that cheap itd break the balance practically.
I have to say, we do get too much from a few of the most wanted Support Skills to training becoming almost too easy from the best training spots being Heal Weak/Holy Weak. its only fair our Ultimate 30 Book is expensive, we are the fastest training class after all, no need to be hasty and make it even easier to find than it is already from this Bonus as well..
*reserved for Bonus Drop Picture*
-- Lifes like that Harronized, if someone hasnt seen or felt a troubled experience of others its only natural for them to feel like theyre the only ones who've had this experience.
Ive had it hard too i laugh at how level 30's think its hard LMPQing and how boring CPQ is "why cant there be a faster way to level" when i grinded the hell each day to get to 70 back then, alot of us had tough times and its funny how spoiled life keeps becoming as time passes on.
Crimsonwood Keep Bonus Drop List - Eos - 2009-03-23
Harrisonized Wrote:which has basically taught me that human jealousy will never allow people to stop complaining.
Actually it's more akin to greed - We're designed to never be satisfied with what we have and always want more (whether it's something someone else has, jealousy, or something noone has but we want anyway, pride/ego/greed), as a biological imperitive to keep us from stagnating as a species.
Crimsonwood Keep Bonus Drop List - Joe.2 - 2009-03-23
Kevo Wrote:To Joe.2:
You obviously haven't tried an Archer or White Knight pre 4th job. Priests have it SO easy compared to most other classes, even during pre 4th job period. If you can't get into a HT squad, that's your problem. I couldn't exactly get into HT at my preferred time since I didn't have connections to the groups that went during those times back then. I went to daily 3-4 AM HT Runs (sometimes doubling) with class at 8am. Unless you experience something like that you can't complain.
Like I said, it's so simple. Just sell leech. If you're against it then you're being stubborn and it's almost like you expect Gen30 to be handed to you on a platter. I could earn the money to get a Gen 30 within a week of leech selling (it's more expensive in Scania).
I also do not recall Assassinate 30 being dropped from the CWK PQ, and Genesis 30 is infinitely more easy to obtain compared to Assassinate 30.
And finally, yes 60-70mil for Gen30 is too much to ask. There's too many Bishops. High demand, and not a high supply. You remind me of those poor Arch Mages that complain that they can't get Elemental Wands. Maybe if you actually tried making money instead of complaining...
I never said other classes weren't hard, I was just stating that leveling the bishop class in itself was quite demanding before PQs/leech/4th. I wasn't complaining either, I rather enjoyed leveling up and earning all my crap. I was merely refuting that [all] bishops were spoiled.
It's also not a matter of a "preferred" time to HT/sell leech, I have a time i can go on maple, and times i just can't, between work, activities and school. I sell leech/ merchant whenever I can and profit nicely from it, my point never was if i had or didn't have the mesos for it, it was that I wasn't fond of spending 150+ with the book's failling chance. Some people don't mind failing expensive books or failing chaos scrolls, I do. It's just my opinion, no need to patronize me.
Crimsonwood Keep Bonus Drop List - Berzerk - 2009-03-23
Chameleonic Wrote:I saw a Crimsonheart Cloak in the FM that had +4 to everything and 6 slots.:f6:
-Edit- It has 8 according to Isaac.
Crimsonwood Keep Bonus Drop List - IsaacGS - 2009-03-23
Crimsonheart Cloak has 8 slots clean, +4 to all, level 90, 35 wdef and 40 mdef.
Blackfist Cloak is 5 slots clean, 4 attack, 120 HP, level 100, 43 wedef, and 48 mdef.
Goldensoul (which I think no one has found yet) has 5 slots clean, int +3, MP +100, level 120, wdef 50, and mdef 55.
As for the bishop discussion, let's take it to a different thread and stop sidetracking this one, ok?
Crimsonwood Keep Bonus Drop List - Holypie - 2009-03-23
wow that's a nice cape...
Crimsonwood Keep Bonus Drop List - WingZero - 2009-03-23
IsaacGS Wrote:Crimsonheart Cloak has 8 slots clean, +4 to all, level 90, 35 wdef and 40 mdef.
Blackfist Cloak is 5 slots clean, 4 attack, 120 HP, level 100, 43 wedef, and 48 mdef.
Goldensoul (which I think no one has found yet) has 5 slots clean, int +3, MP +100, level 120, wdef 50, and mdef 55.
As for the bishop discussion, let's take it to a different thread and stop sidetracking this one, ok?
Wow, 8 slots? I still like the Blackfist Cloak since it has the sexy 120 HP, I could care less about the 4 attack, but hey I'll take it.
Crimsonwood Keep Bonus Drop List - Kaasoljoyyx - 2009-03-23
WingZero Wrote:Wow, 8 slots? I still like the Blackfist Cloak since it has the sexy 120 HP, I could care less about the 4 attack, but hey I'll take it.
Very very nice for luk mages though, still good for lukless mages.
Crimsonwood Keep Bonus Drop List - Greg22 - 2009-03-23
Lack of Assassinate 30 makes this entire bonus droplist incomplete.
God dayum Neckson.
Crimsonwood Keep Bonus Drop List - randompeep - 2009-03-23
Greg Wrote:Lack of Assassinate 30 makes this entire bonus droplist incomplete.
God dayum Neckson.
It might be found eventually. Pierce 30 didn't even show up until I found that vid.
Crimsonwood Keep Bonus Drop List - Takebacker - 2009-03-24
randompeep Wrote:It might be found eventually. Pierce 30 didn't even show up until I found that vid.
The fact that it hasn't been found after almost 2-3 weeks of PQing even if it exists doesn't change much.
Crimsonwood Keep Bonus Drop List - Kabanaw - 2009-03-25
Takebacker Wrote:The fact that it hasn't been found after almost 2-3 weeks of PQing even if it exists doesn't change much.
So far one elemental weapon has been reported.
It seems as though the bonus drops a ton of 90-110 weapons, story books, skill books, and random etc and use items. I think it's going to be a while before we finish the list.