SuperNerd Wrote:I love how everyone complains for better equipment, and when we finally get our own unique "ub3r-l33t" equip, on par with the Zakum Helmet and Horntail Pendant, everyone starts to peach instead. Who says that the Horntail Pendant has to be the "end-game pendant"? There's always bigger and better things to accomplish, beat, and gain in a game like this.

Sure, it's extremely broken. But the fact that you have to fight FOUR pineappleING BOSSES AT THE SAME TIME, and not just easy-peasy bosses, but ones with lots of HP, DEF, immunities, and what not, sort of makes it a worthy prize. I can't wait to get my hands on one at that level.

Anywho... I hope there's more new equips to follow. I also wanna know the stats on those two new capes and so wanna know the other obtainable equips for the Reward of the PQ.

Hazzy Wrote:To add to this, Paladins differ from White knights via three damage-related moves, iirc. Sanc, Holy Charge, and ACB. Without mobs, ACB's and Sanc's shot. Holy Immune? There goes Holy Charge. What exactly makes a Paladin useful here again? ._.

darkestsoul Wrote:Okay for all those mages who keep complain how unbalanced the pendant is think of all the elemental wands you guys get. Seriously stop and think. 20% damage boost. 20%...do I literally have to spell it out to you how big of a boost that is. TWENTY PERCENT. (Sorry Bishops this doesn't apply to you but hey at least you get to come along for the fight.)

Kevin Wrote:Blast?

I'm waiting to reserve judgment on class balance in the PQ until I know how the whole thing works.

darkestsoul Wrote:Okay for all those mages who keep complain how unbalanced the pendant is think of all the elemental wands you guys get. Seriously stop and think. 20% damage boost. 20%...do I literally have to spell it out to you how big of a boost that is. TWENTY PERCENT. (Sorry Bishops this doesn't apply to you but hey at least you get to come along for the fight.)

Hazzy Wrote:Wow, 20% from a rare-as-fek weapon VS getting an actual damage increase from buffs/Atk Gear. Totally fair.

kingdj333 Wrote:Yeah, I myself was quiet shock at the remarks made about the atk boost. I was expecting everyone to rejoyce when the 10+ w.atk was added.. I know I did... I think people expected a more challenging pq then this one... The boss HPs are really low...

darkestsoul Wrote:Okay for all those mages who keep complain how unbalanced the pendant is think of all the elemental wands you guys get. Seriously stop and think. 20% damage boost. 20%...do I literally have to spell it out to you how big of a boost that is. TWENTY PERCENT. (Sorry Bishops this doesn't apply to you but hey at least you get to come along for the fight.)

kingdj333 Wrote:You really think it's all about the dmg boost? Let me tell you Mr. it's not... The reason why most of US mages are mad is because we are useless when it comes to BOSSing!
Maplestory's most important factor is it's bosses and the fact that we mages cant go because they are (elementally) resistant to our attacks just pisses us off.
Sure we get that nice 20% boost but how many wand/staves do you see in your server? and if you do see it how much does it cost? Not only that but our dmg is crap compared to other classes/jobs SOOOOO unless Nexon makes us usefull (besides saling leech) then we'll be happy
/rant

Cactuar Wrote:Yeah, and those weapons totally aren't dropping during the CKPQ bonus at all! Nexon said they'd never do that!

So, yeah, I'd say it's about fair. The sad thing is those weapons just put mages on par with melee classes for the most part.

kingdj333 Wrote:You really think it's all about the dmg boost? Let me tell you Mr. it's not... The reason why most of US mages are mad is because we are useless when it comes to BOSSing!
Maplestory's most important factor is it's bosses and the fact that we mages cant go because they are (elementally) resistant to our attacks just pisses us off.
Sure we get that nice 20% boost but how many wand/staves do you see in your server? and if you do see it how much does it cost? Not only that but our dmg is crap compared to other classes/jobs SOOOOO unless Nexon makes us usefull (besides saling leech) then we'll be happy
/rant

kingdj333 Wrote:You really think it's all about the dmg boost? Let me tell you Mr. it's not... The reason why most of US mages are mad is because we are useless when it comes to BOSSing!
Maplestory's most important factor is it's bosses and the fact that we mages cant go because they are (elementally) resistant to our attacks just pisses us off.
Sure we get that nice 20% boost but how many wand/staves do you see in your server? and if you do see it how much does it cost? Not only that but our dmg is crap compared to other classes/jobs SOOOOO unless Nexon makes us usefull (besides saling leech) then we'll be happy
/rant

Hippy Wrote:People need to stop being such whiny peaches. You're crying over the bosses? You haven't even seen what exactly getting there entails, have you? There's possibly plenty of room to be useful and credit to team. Stop thinking about your own god damn self being the most important person in every aspect and think about "How am I going to benefit my party?". Maybe it may not be the bosses. Maybe there's a class specific action necessary in the mastery rooms. Maybe there are elementally weak mobs who drop passes. Quit crying until you've seen everything it has to offer.

godofturtles Wrote:Best of everything, lol we aren't best at anything right now, not EVEN leeching unless we leech priests lol. I'm hoping this pq makes these weapons more available.

randompeep Wrote:I did some number crunching for every boss above 140 and the Grandmasters, and this is what I got: (All bosses are all parts together, unless marked.)

15. Dunas (Neo Tokyo fire mage), 230 mil HP
14. Nibelung (Neo Tokyo robot ship), 262 mil
13. Bergamot (Neo Tokyo mech), 300 mil
12. Targa + Scarlion, 400 mil
11. Neo Tokyo Balrog (thing), 430 mil
10. Zakum, 460.1 mil
9. Krexel, 500 mil
8 Horntail Prelim. Heads, 660 mil
7. Bodyguard A+B, no Grandpa, 900 mil
6. All Crimsonwood Keep Grandmasters, 919 mil
5. Bodyguards A/B and The Boss, 1050 mil
4. Tonosama and Big Toad, 1070 mil
3. Horntail, all parts except prelim. heads, 2090 mil
2. Pink Been ONLY, 2100 mil
1. Full Pink Been Battle, 3500 mil

Three things interesting to me on this list:
1) lol, Neo Tokyo bosses are relatively weak, with F/P as the weakest of the bunch
2) Bit overkill on the Pink Been by itself, eh?
3) Wow, Grandmasters beat combined Bodyguard A+B?!

To those about to go into battle, I salute you.

Edit: Also, the above list is based on HP ONLY.

Edit2: The above may be why there's a broken pendant as the reward. Without counting the possible skill needed to beat the PQ, the Grandmasters are the 6th strongest boss in the game, all versions counted. Still no reason to be that broken, though. >.>

Hippy Wrote:So you want to be best/good at everything? Quit being so selfish and realize what you already have. If all you think you have is leeching then you are hideously narrowminded.