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Knights of Cygnus Skill Tables - modular - 2009-02-04
so against some physical-weak monster you get an extra 25% damage? for a total soul charge multiplier of 150% against such a monster? and just 120% against every other monster currently in the game?
(or is there already a designation that every monster except pink bean is phys-weak since there is no monster that doesnt seem to work right for our calculations?)
Knights of Cygnus Skill Tables - Amnesia - 2009-02-04
Yeah, somersault gets a sexy electric animation
after maxing MaxHP, I allowed myself to put SP for Lightning charge, and its pretty cool, it gives even for the regular punch electric animation.
You can see through this video how does the skills look like :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IiNT5_Aicg&feature=channel_page
Knights of Cygnus Skill Tables - Dusk - 2009-02-04
Amnesia Wrote:Yeah, somersault gets a sexy electric animation
after maxing MaxHP, I allowed myself to put SP for Lightning charge, and its pretty cool, it gives even for the regular punch electric animation.
You can see through this video how does the skills look like :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IiNT5_Aicg&feature=channel_page
Looks pretty nice. When I saw the Energy Charge bubble pop up, I thought for a second, wtp third job at sand rats? Then I realized it was a second job skill. Cygnus is going to make people's heads spin.
Knights of Cygnus Skill Tables - KaidaTan - 2009-02-04
Alilatias Wrote:Way ahead of you. I made a theoretical build for Wind Breakers about three weeks ago. I even factored in Wind Walk to just about everything.If it works how I think it does (an after-crit multiplier, similar to Berserk), then crits would be crazy too. A Wind Walk crit would be +130% damage instead of +100% damage. And here's something: what if when you use Hurricane out of Wind Walk it increases the damage of every arrow until you let go of the button?
[SPOILER= Here's a sample of the Wind Walk calculations. Wow, Wind Walk is crazy.]Assuming that I'm doing the calculations correctly...
- Level 1 Strafe X Maxed Wind Walk = 92.3%.
- Wind Breaker's Level 1 Arrow Rain X Maxed Wind Walk = 84.5%.
- Wind Breakers Level 20 Arrow Rain X Maxed Wind Walk = 208%.
*cries*
But yeah, I made two separate theoretical 3rd job builds. One for if Albatross turns out to be excellent, and one for if it turns out to be crap (and it won't be because I saw a video of someone using Hurricane during Albatross).
Knights of Cygnus Skill Tables - Sinnuendo - 2009-02-04
KaidaTan Wrote:If it works how I think it does (an after-crit multiplier, similar to Berserk), then crits would be crazy too. A Wind Walk crit would be +130% damage instead of +100% damage. And here's something: what if when you use Hurricane out of Wind Walk it increases the damage of every arrow until you let go of the button?
But yeah, I made two separate theoretical 3rd job builds. One for if Albatross turns out to be excellent, and one for if it turns out to be crap (and it won't be because I saw a video of someone using Hurricane during Albatross).
Well that's the thing though. Unlike (Super) Transform, which adds STR, Speed and Jump, Albatross only adds Speed and Jump. The only real advantages to using Albatross is extra maneuverability, two extra skills (one of which is inferior to Hurricane in terms of DPS, although it does look way cooler), and a cooler-looking avatar.
Does anyone know how Magnum Shot compares to AR in terms of DPS?
Knights of Cygnus Skill Tables - IsaacGS - 2009-02-04
KaidaTan Wrote:If it works how I think it does (an after-crit multiplier, similar to Berserk), then crits would be crazy too. A Wind Walk crit would be +130% damage instead of +100% damage. And here's something: what if when you use Hurricane out of Wind Walk it increases the damage of every arrow until you let go of the button?I can try to get some numbers for you to work this out with, I'd be interested to see if this is true. From what I remember about using wind walk, the criticals did seem oddly high.
But yeah, I made two separate theoretical 3rd job builds. One for if Albatross turns out to be excellent, and one for if it turns out to be crap (and it won't be because I saw a video of someone using Hurricane during Albatross).
Knights of Cygnus Skill Tables - Dusk - 2009-02-04
I'm fairly certain it only affects the first arrow of Hurricane, but what do I know. I'm just going by logic and what I think I've read somewhere.
Knights of Cygnus Skill Tables - IsaacGS - 2009-02-04
Dusk Wrote:I'm fairly certain it only affects the first arrow of Hurricane, but what do I know. I'm just going by logic and what I think I've read somewhere.Yeah, for hurricane it would only affect the first arrow. It's not a real hassle to use windshot before each Double Shot/Storm Breath, but I wouldn't want to try it with Strafe or Rain. It's completely useless with Hurricane. So really, it would only affect the damage output for the two transform skills.
Knights of Cygnus Skill Tables - Kirov - 2009-02-04
Sinnuendo Wrote:The only real advantages to using Albatross is extra maneuverability, two extra skills (one of which is inferior to Hurricane in terms of DPS, although it does look way cooler), and a cooler-looking avatar.
The speed advantage is pretty much pointless. Since FA is basically useless you can MAX thrust in 2nd job. Combine that with numerous bows that give 10+ speed and you already have 140 speed.
Knights of Cygnus Skill Tables - KaidaTan - 2009-02-04
I did some quick numbers on a whim. The speed is measured in miliseconds.
Skill | Hurricane | Wind Shot | Arrow Rain | Magnum [noparse][/noparse] |
Skill% | 90% | 350% | 160% | 550% [noparse][/noparse] |
Crit Chance | 40% | 40% | 40% | 40% [noparse][/noparse] |
+Damage% | 100% | 100% | 100% | 100% [noparse][/noparse] |
Speed | 120 | 1260 | 720 | 1100 [noparse][/noparse] |
Hits | 1 | 3 | 6 | 6 [noparse][/noparse] |
DPS | 1083.33% | 928.57% | 1666.67% | 3218.18% [noparse][/noparse] |
+Wind Walk | 1207.14% | 2166.67% | 4183.64% [noparse][/noparse] |
I think (read "hope") that the Wind Shot and maybe Magnum Shot delays will be reduced or taken away completely. They looked more spammable in some of the videos I've seen, but I could be mistaken. I guess we'll see or Issac will tell us firsthand when he reaches 3rd job. Hurry up!
Note: Magnum Shot does almost as much DPS as Hurricane when it hits two monsters, and significantly more when it hits three or more. Magnum Shot might be amazing.
Knights of Cygnus Skill Tables - Takebacker - 2009-02-04
KaidaTan Wrote:Magnum Shot might be amazing.
Except at bosses. I'd like to see magnum shot at our supposed "4 bosses at once" thing. o_o
@ panda: Gtfo if you're just going to spam.
Knights of Cygnus Skill Tables - Shidoshi - 2009-02-04
Takebacker Wrote:@ panda: Gtfo if you're just going to spam.
give him a break, he is new at southperry.
LPanda Wrote:
southperry general and training center are places where people make serious contributions to building on the information about the game we play. You are allowed to make spammy comments only if you contribute to the thread AS WELL. Or else you will get this type of response.
Knights of Cygnus Skill Tables - FelixTM - 2009-02-04
I think I'm 100% sure I'm going with Flame Wizard now. Soul Warrior is tempting. Windbreaker is a sweet change to Bowman, and I'm sure they'd be fun too, but my Bowmaster is enough. I just want to get my Cygnus to 120 ASAP to benefit my BM.
Oh, and thanks for taking the time to do this! I'm very glad.
Knights of Cygnus Skill Tables - KaidaTan - 2009-02-04
Takebacker Wrote:Except at bosses. I'd like to see magnum shot at our supposed "4 bosses at once" thing. o_o
Can Cygnus really look forward to bosses at all? They can't hit/do damage/survive at HT and their damage would be pathetic at Zakum. Only heavily washed Windbreakers and Nightwalkers would be able to safely solo Pap, and that's just a waste. I think it's more important to focus on the training aspect of the Cygnus.
Knights of Cygnus Skill Tables - Takebacker - 2009-02-04
KaidaTan Wrote:Can Cygnus really look forward to bosses at all? They can't hit/do damage/survive at HT and their damage would be pathetic at Zakum. Only heavily washed Windbreakers and Nightwalkers would be able to safely solo Pap, and that's just a waste. I think it's more important to focus on the training aspect of the Cygnus.
I never mentioned any of those bosses though, and i'm thinking the 4 bosses will just be 4 pap-esqe creatures. Shouldn't be that hard for one to get in.
@ shido: I know. That's no excuse. Being on any other forum for the first time in your life doesn't automatically mean you can spam up everywhere. Ever seen some of his other posts? Dear god i swear it's the beginning invasion of /b/asil.
Knights of Cygnus Skill Tables - Alilatias - 2009-02-04
KaidaTan Wrote:If it works how I think it does (an after-crit multiplier, similar to Berserk), then crits would be crazy too. A Wind Walk crit would be +130% damage instead of +100% damage.
Argh, why did I not think about after-crit? Darn, and I had decided to go Storm Breath first (after Mastery, of course) instead of Wind Walk.
This might make me reconsider for like the 15th time (unless I try a theoretical build where I level both at the same time).
*goes to calculate those*
Knights of Cygnus Skill Tables - Russt - 2009-02-05
DPS?
http://krakia.110mb.com/easydps.htm
Time to toss out your TI-83
Knights of Cygnus Skill Tables - WayOfTime - 2009-02-05
KaidaTan Wrote:I did some quick numbers on a whim. The speed is measured in miliseconds.I must ask you for a favour here: Can you run those numbers with level 10, 20, and 30 Sharp eyes?
I think (read "hope") that the Wind Shot and maybe Magnum Shot delays will be reduced or taken away completely. They looked more spammable in some of the videos I've seen, but I could be mistaken. I guess we'll see or Issac will tell us firsthand when he reaches 3rd job. Hurry up!
Note: Magnum Shot does almost as much DPS as Hurricane when it hits two monsters, and significantly more when it hits three or more. Magnum Shot might be amazing.
Knights of Cygnus Skill Tables - Kaikiaku - 2009-02-05
Not sure if anyone asked this before (sorry if someone did) but does the albatross skill has any cooldown? :f6:
Knights of Cygnus Skill Tables - Kirov - 2009-02-05
The info is in Isaac's skill table, just look at wind breaker 3rd job.