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Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - Hypermug - 2014-08-06 I agree that Cakes' statement doesn't prove anything, but I do feel he is telling the truth and that it may be too early to know how the mechanics are working. If types play into this, why would someone have him attack me though (assuming he is a Growlithe)? Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - LuvDWayULie - 2014-08-06 Polantaris Wrote:Mhmm...You did. This time I'm very, very certain I read the PM correctly. My power only blocks a person (Paralyzing via Thunder), but I really didn't know that the blocking/paralysis can be extended for that long. Niernen didn't say anything.. Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - Olsi - 2014-08-06 So its a more powerful role block that can last multiple turns.... I cant see that being a town ability, it would hurt the town too much from every mistake. Either its a single night roleblock like normal or luv is very likely mafia Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - Kyrastri - 2014-08-06 meowmixx Wrote:yay no deaths! gj ppl. also someone was watching me last night....creepy... Watching...? Care to elaborate on that? Either you were investigated or there is actually a watching role, I'd imagine. LuvDWayULie Wrote:You. I targeted you. Intimidating to town? Isn't that a good thing? ._. We want strong players to stay alive. CakesXD Wrote:Haha, I didn't have a choice, but good thing I'm not exactly a Power Role. I don't know what you're trying to imply here o-o Just because nothing happened doesn't confirm that you're not a threat, but I guess we don't have much to go off. edit: sorry, I need to do work, I'll write up some theories when I have free time but in the meantime could people reveal anything they received via PM? I was inhibited from using my night action, I'll reread to check later Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - LuvDWayULie - 2014-08-06 Kyrastri Wrote:Watching...? Care to elaborate on that? Either you were investigated or there is actually a watching role, I'd imagine. Intimidating in a bad way, so bad that he looked mafia to me. And I could also guess his type, if my theory on Pokemon types affect powers is right. Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - CakesXD - 2014-08-06 Hypermug Wrote:I agree that Cakes' statement doesn't prove anything, but I do feel he is telling the truth and that it may be too early to know how the mechanics are working. I did throw an enormous clue out on Day 1, Polantaris got it immediately. The Arcanine photo is just because Arcanine is from Gen 1 and I like Arcanine. ![]() Kyrastri Wrote:I don't know what you're trying to imply here o-o Just because nothing happened doesn't confirm that you're not a threat, but I guess we don't have much to go off. But isn't it interesting that nothing happened? This implies that either A) my ability cannot target someone, B) I have a late-activating ability or C) I'm just a big, fat, lying Mafioso. Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - meowmixx - 2014-08-06 Kyrastri Wrote:Watching...? Care to elaborate on that? Either you were investigated or there is actually a watching role, I'd imagine. yup i felt someone peeping at me. i dont think it was an investigation from the po-po but a nosey pokemon who wanted to see what i do during the night Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - Holypie - 2014-08-06 Polantaris Wrote:Mhmm...You did. Can you post a paraphrased version of the PM you got? It would be very strange to have an RNG based, multi turn roleblock, if what I'm reading from your post is correct. Also, can people stop disclosing so freely that they have night actions? It just makes them targets for mafia. And based on your hint Cakes, it sounds like you have a time delayed action. Not that any of that matters, because there's still no evidence. I'm not saying that you're lying, I'm just saying that there isn't any evidence to prove what you're saying is true. That goes for almost everything people say, lying is a part of the game. Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - MasPan - 2014-08-06 [COLOR="#cc8899"] CakesXD Wrote:Haha, I didn't have a choice, but good thing I'm not exactly a Power Role. Or the two of you are mafia and working together. Doubtful, but it's a possibility to throw out there. Both of you have softclaimed, which would be incredibly risky to do as a mafian so early. Either way, I don't think there's enough information at the time to refute the claim. meowmixx Wrote:yup i felt someone peeping at me. i dont think it was an investigation from the po-po but a nosey pokemon who wanted to see what i do during the night But...Nosepass is gen2... Looks like the following happened last night, taking what everyone has said at face value: 1. [MENTION=8192]LuvDWayULie[/MENTION]; targeted [MENTION=6823]Polantaris[/MENTION];, which Paralyzed him (may or may not roleblock him in the future). It's possible that he's a Ground type, which would explain (sortof, Ground should be outright immune to Electric) a weird result. 2. Someone redirected [MENTION=10466]CakesXD[/MENTION];'s power to [MENTION=22]Hypermug[/MENTION];, which failed because CakesXD either does not have a targeted power, did not use his power, or HyperMug was otherwise immune/an invalid target. 3. Someone was watching [MENTION=12295]meowmixx[/MENTION]; LuvDWayULie has claimed Pikachu, with a roleblocking power Polantaris has hinted that he may be a Ground and/or Rock type relating to his avatar HyperMug has made references to stars, but if memory serves stated that he was not Staryu Meowmixx is hitting us over our collective heads with Jynx references. CakesXD has made several references to food, fat, eating, sleeping...possibly Snorlax [MENTION=7423]TheBirds[/MENTION]; hinted at being a Magikarp, though considering he does/says something similar in most games (being useless/vanilla/etc) I'd take that with a grain of salt. [/COLOR] Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - VerrKol - 2014-08-06 Olsi Wrote:So its a more powerful role block that can last multiple turns.... I cant see that being a town ability, it would hurt the town too much from every mistake. No one has confirmed that it lasts multiple turns. You're jumping to conclusions. It's far more likely that his block will occur in the future (just like the move) or that it requires a type disadvantage to be successful. [MENTION=12295]meowmixx[/MENTION]; Who wouldn't want to see what you get up to at night? ![]() I have no interesting night time results to report. I'm willing to take [MENTION=10466]CakesXD[/MENTION];'s events at face value for now which means he was hit by either A) an ability that requires a type susceptibility or B) was hit by the compulsion then healed. B seems rather unlikely for a night 1, especially since the pokemafia were presumably unable KO their first target. Well done Chansey (blatant assumption) with those heals or someone used an invulnerable move like Fly, Dig, etc. Or the ever present option C) you're both mafia and attempting to make Hypermug look innocent.Luv's immediate fixation with Polantaris is odd, but I can never figure out what's going through his head anyway so I'll ignore that for now. [MENTION=6616]Olsi[/MENTION];'s knee jerk reaction is the most suspicious thing I've seen so far. Baring further evidence from our no doubt sleeping compatriots, Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - MasPan - 2014-08-06 VerrKol Wrote:No one has confirmed that it lasts multiple turns. You're jumping to conclusions. It's far more likely that his block will occur in the future (just like the move) or that it requires a type disadvantage to be successful. [COLOR="#cc8899"]Odd, my sentiment is echoed here by your vote onto him after a "good job doctor" comment. It also kindof seems like you're defending [MENTION=8192]LuvDWayULie[/MENTION]; , who ALSO made a "good job doctor" comment. [Vote][MENTION=8732]VerrKol[/MENTION]; -Edit- I was mistaken, Luv's comment was more of a "hurray, nobody died" comment, which I still find to be sketchy. But it lowers the odds that the two of you are working together. LuvDWayULie Wrote:Ooh, no one died? That's great! Finally, [MENTION=12295]meowmixx[/MENTION]; also made one meowmixx Wrote:yay no deaths! gj ppl. also someone was watching me last night....creepy... [/COLOR] Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - VerrKol - 2014-08-06 MasPan Wrote:[COLOR="#cc8899"]Odd, my sentiment is echoed here by your vote onto him after a "good job doctor" comment. It also kindof seems like you're defending LuvDWayULie; , who ALSO made a "good job doctor" comment. You think "good job doctor" is some sort of secret code? A doctor saving someone on night 1 is a highly unlikely probability and I noted that it was a big assumption. If someone actually managed to guess correctly (simple assumption that the pokemafi actually targeted someone), any doctor making the save deserves kudos AND IN NO WAY DO I WANT THEM TO REVEAL THEIR HYPOTHETICAL PRESENCE. I've already mentioned that there is every possibility that the target was otherwise immune by using their own power. Some rather obvious examples are Fly and Dig which would likely render them untargetable to most pokemafia assassinations AND IN NO WAY SHOULD A VICTIM REVEAL THEIR IMMUNITY. I'm not defending Luv in anyway, his play style honestly confuses the hell out of me. You can find all the evidence you need for that from last game. I've virtually given up on figuring out when he is or isn't mafia. I already mentioned his fixation with Polantaris was odd, though I can't really call is suspicious because I've yet to be right guessing about his motives. Hope that clarifies things Olsi strikes me as suspicious because it seems like he made a rather large leap in poorly reasoned logic. A mafia member might do this to lob a soft accusation and see if anyone runs with it. Feel free to poke holes in my logic or point to more scummy targets. Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - MasPan - 2014-08-06 "Good job doctor" has nothing to do with revealing presence, it's just a common occurrence from mafia players that want to seem town-friendly to make comments congratulating the town on a good play. You're way overreacting, dude. Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - LuvDWayULie - 2014-08-06 What are you trying to do, MasPan? Trying to push me and VerrKol together as mafia members? It's kinda obvious now that I don't work with VerrKol after looking at his posts right? Therefore, your reasoning is flawed and I have now a larger suspicion against you. Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - MasPan - 2014-08-06 LuvDWayULie Wrote:What are you trying to do, MasPan? Trying to push me and VerrKol together as mafia members? It's kinda obvious now that I don't work with VerrKol after looking at his posts right? Therefore, your reasoning is flawed and I have now a larger suspicion against you.[COLOR="#cc8899"] No, I'm not. I'm skeptical of him because of the general way he's posting - the screaming in ALLCAPs, for example. A mafia pikachu (if your claim is legitimate) would be exactly the sort of subverted expectation I would use as a host, but I don't know if that's in Niernen's style to do so. Pokemon and role are not necessarily tied together, but it's a bit of a stretch. Just because someone comments on a possibility doesn't mean they're accusing of something. [/COLOR] Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - VerrKol - 2014-08-06 MasPan Wrote:"Good job doctor" has nothing to do with revealing presence, it's just a common occurrence from mafia players that want to seem town-friendly to make comments congratulating the town on a good play. You're way overreacting, dude. Just trying to be clear after the holypie nonsense last game. We do have a number of new(ish) players in this game and I'd rather be explicit in this case than be misinterpreted. If I think someone is suspicious of me because they misinterpreted what I said, then I will "overreact" and be especially clear. You were suspicious of me before I typed in all caps so using it as justification (post below) is a bit nonsequitar. Anyway, I'm going to bed now. I'll likely check in sometime tomorrow at work. Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - ChaoticCJ - 2014-08-06 For the doctor to get a night 1 save seems unlikely with the amount of players that we have left. While it isn't out of the realm of possibilities, the doctor shouldn't come forth to say so. I actually read the night similar to xBTAx, and probably much simpler than most of you. Luv (Blocks) -> Polantaris (Controls) -> CakesXD (Is ordered to attack) -> Hypermug (Fails because of Luv's thunder on Polantaris) This seems like the most likely scenario to me, other than the doctor making the save. Polantaris is shifting away focus on himself by pointing the finger at Luv saying his ability didn't work, when in all likelihood it did work as intended. I do commend his strategy for using Luv's play-style against him to cause confusion. I don't see a strategy where the mafia didn't use their kill; Even if the doctor made the save and we are going that route, we are left with some options with player that may have revealed more than they should have either by mistake or unknowingly. These are just some of my theories, and I am leaving out the type advantage theory because it seems like it would over-complicate the game, but it is something to consider once we get more information. Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - MasPan - 2014-08-06 VerrKol Wrote:Just trying to be clear after the holypie nonsense last game. We do have a number of new(ish) players in this game and I'd rather be explicit in this case than be misinterpreted. If I think someone is suspicious of me because they misinterpreted what I said, then I will "overreact" and be especially clear. You were suspicious of me before I typed in all caps so using it as justification (post below) is a bit nonsequitar. I listed it as a specific example of a general attitude/feel to your posts. Not as specific evidence against you. Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - CakesXD - 2014-08-06 ChaoticCJ Wrote:Luv (Blocks) -> Polantaris (Controls) -> CakesXD (Is ordered to attack) -> Hypermug (Fails because of Luv's thunder on Polantaris) Polantaris did mention that his ability went through, so Luv's block didn't do anything (yet?). In addition, I was ordered to attack, but it was not blocked in any way. Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - TheBirds - 2014-08-06 MasPan Wrote:TheBirds; hinted at being a Magikarp, though considering he does/says something similar in most games (being useless/vanilla/etc) I'd take that with a grain of salt.in my defense i've claimed powerlessness in the last three games which has been true. anyway, i got yoshi wet last night, that was fun. |