ChaoticCJ Wrote:Zelkova has been on the bandwagon both days. On day 2, he chose Words to "defend himself" even though he was in no danger of being lynched at the time-he could also have voted against Dusk or Niernen.

Unless someone has a better guess, [vote A]Zelkova

y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:I'd say there's a good chance a portion of the mafia is within the quieter members. On the same thread, however, we should look at the results of yesterday's lynching.

Words was lynched by Zelkova and Verrkol. Good chance mafia is within those 2, if not both. I'm still /heavily/ leaning towards Verrkol there, but I'm certainly not ruling out Zelkova. But that's Island A and I can't really do anything there yet.

Sega was lynched by MasPan and Holypie. In retrospect, I suppose it was fairly obvious MasPan was a survivor. Less so than Sega or Words might have been, but still fairly obvious. And I'm still inclined to believe that Holypie is a survivor, albeit possibly just overager?

I'd say our best bets for Island B are MetaSeraphim/ImagineAll currently. I could very well be wrong, but it's not like I have much to directly go on here.

VerrKol Wrote:Words was lynched more because of inactivity on island A than anything else. I frankly never expected a "successful" lynch with only 2 votes and returned too late to stop it. It's easy to cast myself or Zelkova as mafia with 20-20 hindsight but remember that no one except Olsi ever defended Words and we literally had no other suspicious candidate. Don't forget that others voted for Words throughout the day only to retract them later.

Your defense of Holypie is inconsistent logically if voting to lynch is your only evidence of pirate behavior.

I've probably done more than anyone else on las islas de muertas to analyze our fellows and search logically for pirate scum.

As for Corn's situation, it could be a continual use of power rather than a permanent one. It does seem pirate-esque to target him for vote retribution (mmm popcorn) so I'm inclined towards his innocence.
Polantaris substituting for his twin brother Dusk could swing either way, but I'm inclined towards his innocence.
Olsi seems obviously innocent and I'm most confident about him on either island.

Our other silent compatriots are far more suspicious along with Zelkova and Holypie for lynch voting. Others may include myself in this category but I'll pointlessly state that I am not a pirate and I've already presented my defense besides.

I'll avoid singling someone out for lynching for now so I don't contribute to another fiasco like yesterday.

Zelkova Wrote:So far I have voted no vote and vote against someone who was voting for me. If someone votes for me I will vote right back at them, it is only logical in my mind.

[vote]ChaoticCJ[B]

Holypie Wrote:Wait, please explain why you think I'm suspicious?

VerrKol; Wrote:for lynch voting

y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:VerrKol;
Words was one of the more vocal members here.
Claiming you wouldn't have lynched Words is both an easy claim to make and highly inconsistent. It was the end of the day and you shouldn't be voting anyone without an intention to lynch them, if not to gauge reactions early on.
I never claimed the votes were my sole reasoning - it was an extension of my previous analysis, if you saw my previous statements on the matter. The way a vote is carried out means just as much as the vote itself.
And you have done very little actual scumhunting. You have literally just mimicked what others have already said.

All points are irrelevant.


And I agree with CJ. Revenge voting is silly. OMGUS as it's called is very inconsistent and trivializes most legitimate scumhunting.

VerrKol Wrote:Pardon? I voted hours (28 irl) prior to the day ending. If you read my original post, it's fairly obvious I did it to provoke a reaction and try to get him to explain his island hop (said as much in post #111). You can note that I was the first and only vote for him that day (irl time). What exactly about the "way I voted" is suspicious? You can and should look for alterior motives in everything I say/do

I have mimicked no one. I was the first and only person to suggest that pirates might island hop to concentrate their numbers and skew lynch votes for instance (#89). Granted, this hasn't happened at least thus far, but it was a more viable idea than any others presented at the time. I grant that I have made some inconsequential posts for flavor, but I've also contributed more theories and opinions on possible pirates than many others in this thread.

I propose a new possible strategy. We have a number of people on both islands who are contributing very little and largely not voting at all. It is highly possible that one or more of these are pirates attempting to lay low. Alternatively, they are simply shipwrecked people that aren't helping to detect pirates and therefore of little value to the survivors if it's a bad lynch.

y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:And I was moreso referring to the way in which BTA and Zelkova voted, seemingly innocently overeager and OMGUS respectively.

xBTAx Wrote:I'm not exactly sure what you mean by this, given that the only vote I've made was No Lynch on the first day after like 4 other people did that too...? If it's the mimicking you're getting at, I mean, it was an NL on the first day; I can see why that'd look bad, though.

VerrKol Wrote:Don't worry, you're hardly at the top of my list.