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New Root Abyss Equip Drop - PirateIzzy - 2014-01-13
ManxDrk Wrote:BTW, why more meso sinks? people aren't even offerting for my SW daggers clean ._. yeah not even 100m -.-
To help get rid of excess mesos in the economy, and (hopefully) reduce NX:meso ratios.
New Root Abyss Equip Drop - kayeyearekay - 2014-01-13
Stereo Wrote: (also that MS has no meso sinks)
increase tax would be a bad way to go, maybe they could add additional tax% after the current ones.
Basic Trade Tax___________________________________ Merchant Shop Tax
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250 mil - 7.0%
500 mil - 8.0%
1 bil - 9.0%
2 bil - 10%
im not good with tax models, but some higher value now that our meso cap is 10b only seems logical.
yes, of course it hurts profits, and people will raise prices to compensate, but there is just way too much meso in game
New Root Abyss Equip Drop - Gymleaders - 2014-01-13
ManxDrk Wrote:more like 50m each for psoks
BTW, why more meso sinks? people aren't even offerting for my SW daggers clean ._. yeah not even 100m -.-
Currency sinks are in games to prevent inflation. There's HYPER INFLATION in MapleStory if you can't tell. That's kinda why even the 10bil meso cap isn't enough. A meso sink isn't needed because you can't sell a SW dagger, they're just there to do what I said before; prevent inflation. Meso sinks would be nothing but a good thing for the game, honestly, depending on how they implement it.
And as far as the price of PSOK/SOK for this idea; it was a random made up price, and honestly I don't think the price of them should be related to the price of NX.
[MENTION=10792]kayeyearekay[/MENTION]; I honestly don't agree with making taxes higher. I feel like that is just a short term change and in the long run only hurts people (I believe they tried doing this in MSEA after meso dupes, and it really only made people stingy/extremely hurt people who were already poor).
New Root Abyss Equip Drop - icephoenix21 - 2014-01-13
Justin Wrote:I like how most of the people poming the first post are highly funded players who 1. Know about it already, and 2. Wanted the knowledge to be kept on the downlow so that they could profit off of it themselves. Talk about slimy. Intentional or not, it would have gotten out anyway.
I could say the exact same for you unfunded noobs giving pineapples.
So what? Maybe you guys should get off your lazy butts and work hard to get funded (without necessarily purchasing NX to do so).
New Root Abyss Equip Drop - Green4Ever - 2014-01-13
kayeyearekay Wrote:im not good with tax models, but some higher value now that our meso cap is 10b only seems logical.
yes, of course it hurts profits, and people will raise prices to compensate, but there is just way too much meso in game
This is not the way to do it.
We need meso sinks that provide players with things in return, such as the old Totems from RLH and job switching.
New Root Abyss Equip Drop - emailbox - 2014-01-13
This thread is pretty much Patricians vs Plebeians.
New Root Abyss Equip Drop - PoetryIsFail - 2014-01-13
icephoenix21 Wrote:I could say the exact same for you unfunded noobs giving pineapples.
So what? Maybe you guys should get off your lazy butts and work hard to get funded (without necessarily purchasing NX to do so).
Pretty sure a good majority of the people giving pineapples don't have crummy ranges and aren't nearly unfunded. They just, you know, have some sense of moral decency and appreciate what OP did by telling us. Its nice when someone contributes something to the community eh? (Even if it was poorly worded)
New Root Abyss Equip Drop - icephoenix21 - 2014-01-13
PoetryIsFail Wrote:Pretty sure a good majority of the people giving pineapples don't have crummy ranges and aren't nearly unfunded. They just, you know, have some sense of moral decency and appreciate what OP did by telling us. Its nice when someone contributes something to the community eh? (Even if it was poorly worded)
I'm sure not all of them have bad ranges, I agree...
However, I think they fail to realize the long-term effects of something like this (as explained by a previous post).
New Root Abyss Equip Drop - Stereo - 2014-01-13
I've never really liked Maple's "beat a boss a dozen or maybe a hundred times before you get the item you want as a random drop" model much.
It's much more enjoyable if you beat the boss and actually get some reward (other than 40 reindeer milk and sunset dews).
You don't have to make the bosses easy, either... just make it so once you can kill them, that's it, accomplishment accomplished.
The Empress's Blessing leveling up from Cygnus killing Arkarium was doing that right, IMO... concrete reward for a challenging fight.
New Root Abyss Equip Drop - Foolyz - 2014-01-13
Stereo Wrote:I've never really liked Maple's "beat a boss a dozen or maybe a hundred times before you get the item you want as a random drop" model much.
It's much more enjoyable if you beat the boss and actually get some reward (other than 40 reindeer milk and sunset dews).
You don't have to make the bosses easy, either... just make it so once you can kill them, that's it, accomplishment accomplished.
The Empress's Blessing leveling up from Cygnus killing Arkarium was doing that right, IMO... concrete reward for a challenging fight.
Agreed. Away with the majority of the gambling model. Let us put in effort (or money) and get proper compensation. That's it, no muss no fuss.
New Root Abyss Equip Drop - Haishiro - 2014-01-13
icephoenix21 Wrote:I'm sure not all of them have bad ranges, I agree...
However, I think they fail to realize the long-term effects of something like this (as explained by a previous post).
I think most people agree the current drop rate is too high, but split drops should stay implemented. I'd guess that 0~2 equips on 1x per person (thus per week) would be fairly reasonable. Making an entrance timer could also cut down on the people who are soloing and bringing 5 mules to farm drops, which borders on abusing the intent of the split drop system.
That being said, as an "unfunded noob" who's farmed every single worthwhile event since 2006 without turning it into a job (at which point I might as well pay for NX and just win the game outright), I'm still nowhere close to being able to CRA with my friends, so it's offensive that you assume that anyone with a low range is automatically lazy.
Edit: Double negatives and stuff @.@
New Root Abyss Equip Drop - Justin - 2014-01-13
icephoenix21 Wrote:I could say the exact same for you unfunded noobs giving pineapples.
So what? Maybe you guys should get off your lazy butts and work hard to get funded (without necessarily purchasing NX to do so).
lol? I have a 2mil range and I never directly stated whether I agree with it or not; I can see both ends of the argument. However, nothing can really dispute specifically what I said, they DID know about it, and they DID want to blatantly abuse it in secret for their own profit.
New Root Abyss Equip Drop - McAwesomesauce - 2014-01-14
Stereo Wrote:I've never really liked Maple's "beat a boss a dozen or maybe a hundred times before you get the item you want as a random drop" model much.
but muh monster hunter
New Root Abyss Equip Drop - street - 2014-01-14
icephoenix21 Wrote:I could say the exact same for you unfunded noobs giving pineapples.
So what? Maybe you guys should get off your lazy butts and work hard to get funded (without necessarily purchasing NX to do so).
Who the f'uck are you again? To be playing maple for this long is not an easy task. Everyone tries their hardest to keep up in the game when nexon keeps making current gear that WE WORKED HARD for obsolete in one patch. When rervese gear first came in to the game it was hard to get because of the horrible drop rate of piece of times back then. No one that i knew once give up in working hard in the game. Grinding in the same map over and over just to get 5 POT in 4 hours. Then PB was finally beatable and timeless came in to the mix. Then all that hard work went down the drain and we had to start from square one. Then when you finally scrolled your reverse gear to a decent attack empress came out.
The ones that like the posts are the maplers that are trying their hardest doing all the event quest,shops,attendance, just to stay relevant in this game.
Hackers and dupers are the ones that never worked hard in the game. Not us. Get your head out of the clouds you royal pos.
New Root Abyss Equip Drop - McAwesomesauce - 2014-01-14
street Wrote:Who the f'uck are you again? To be playing maple for this long is not an easy task. Everyone tries their hardest to keep up in the game when nexon keeps making current gear that WE WORKED HARD for obsolete in one patch. When rervese gear first came in to the game it was hard to get because of the horrible drop rate of piece of times back then. No one that i knew once give up in working hard in the game. Grinding in the same map over and over just to get 5 POT in 4 hours. Then PB was finally beatable and timeless came in to the mix. Then all that hard work went down the drain and we had to start from square one. Then when you finally scrolled your reverse gear to a decent attack empress came out.
The ones that like the posts are the maplers that are trying their hardest doing all the event quest,shops,attendance, just to stay relevant in this game.
Hackers and dupers are the ones that never worked hard in the game. Not us. Get your head out of the clouds you royal pos.
This
I was pretty miffed when I cubed my Alien Set to unique over the summer only for Gollux to show up and blow literally every single piece of my set out of the water.
New Root Abyss Equip Drop - PirateIzzy - 2014-01-14
icephoenix21 Wrote:I could say the exact same for you unfunded noobs giving pineapples.
So what? Maybe you guys should get off your lazy butts and work hard to get funded (without necessarily purchasing NX to do so).
This post reminded me of this:
http://www.infowars.com/worlds-richest-woman-says-poor-should-have-less-fun-work-harder/
New Root Abyss Equip Drop - Marksman Bryan - 2014-01-14
McAwesomesauce Wrote:This
I was pretty miffed when I cubed my Alien Set to unique over the summer only for Gollux to show up and blow literally every single piece of my set out of the water.
Gollux was completely unexpected and f'ucked over anyone who had invested in tempest/unleashed/pinnacle & other perma-untradeable rings.
It's (sort of) possible to plan ahead - if you're serious enough about the game, you're reading up on forums. With maple, there is a TON of information on upcoming updates, and the new equips with them.
New Root Abyss Equip Drop - PoetryIsFail - 2014-01-14
PirateIzzy Wrote:This post reminded me of this:
http://www.infowars.com/worlds-richest-woman-says-poor-should-have-less-fun-work-harder/
Gotta love Gina Rinehart reppin that 'strayan scumbaggery, what she did was *arguably* ez pz.
Step1. Inherit massive mining corporation from father
Step2. Take advantage of Australia's main trading partners requiring a whole bunch of minerals.
Step3. Earn boatloads of money.
New Root Abyss Equip Drop - Alilatias - 2014-01-14
street Wrote:Who the f'uck are you again? To be playing maple for this long is not an easy task. Everyone tries their hardest to keep up in the game when nexon keeps making current gear that WE WORKED HARD for obsolete in one patch. When rervese gear first came in to the game it was hard to get because of the horrible drop rate of piece of times back then. No one that i knew once give up in working hard in the game. Grinding in the same map over and over just to get 5 POT in 4 hours. Then PB was finally beatable and timeless came in to the mix. Then all that hard work went down the drain and we had to start from square one. Then when you finally scrolled your reverse gear to a decent attack empress came out.
The ones that like the posts are the maplers that are trying their hardest doing all the event quest,shops,attendance, just to stay relevant in this game.
Hackers and dupers are the ones that never worked hard in the game. Not us. Get your head out of the clouds you royal pos.
^^^
I haven't played Maple in about two years now, yet I still keep up enough to know that all the equips that my old Bowmaster has now are worthless.
Don't forget you're on SouthPerry, Ice. Everyone that comes around here is fiercely dedicated to some degree. Just because a good amount of us decide not to game the system, withholding information (of which everyone comes to SouthPerry for information in the first place) for the sake of profiting off of ignorance doesn't mean the people here are lazy asses doing nothing at all.
New Root Abyss Equip Drop - Takebacker - 2014-01-14
Marksman Bryan Wrote:Gollux was completely unexpected and f'ucked over anyone who had invested in tempest/unleashed/pinnacle & other perma-untradeable rings.
It's (sort of) possible to plan ahead - if you're serious enough about the game, you're reading up on forums. With maple, there is a TON of information on upcoming updates, and the new equips with them.
Not even just rings. Earrings, pendants...dominators are hilariously bad now compared to gollux pendants even if you have to do hell mode it's cheaper than dominators to perfect and it has a set eff that's on par with fafnir or arguably better. They're all easy to replace previously perfected accessories and they're more profitable to boot.
Everyone got screwed over, but everyone gains, unlike the root abyss and empress situation.