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Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - FluffyFoxxie - 2010-06-11
Holy pomegranate, I've never seen a more ignorant bishop in all my life, except for those dumbasses that thought it wasn't broken that bishops could use elewands without any penalty. get a grip.
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - Asumi - 2010-06-11
FluffyFoxxie Wrote:Holy pomegranate, I've never seen a more ignorant bishop in all my life, except for those dumbasses that thought it wasn't broken that bishops could use elewands without any penalty. get a grip.
Ignorant? i think you are using a wrong word.
disagree with ppl is being ignorant? use your brain.
If i disagree does that mean im ignorant/wrong?
who are you to even say that?
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - Blake - 2010-06-11
Asumi Wrote:Ignorant? i think you are using a wrong word.
disagree with ppl is being ignorant? use your brain.
If i disagree does that mean im ignorant/wrong?
who are you to even say that?
I think you are. The whole point is balance. Better than being an Archmage by far.
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - FluffyFoxxie - 2010-06-11
Asumi Wrote:Ignorant? i think you are using a wrong word.
disagree with ppl is being ignorant? use your brain.
If i disagree does that mean im ignorant/wrong?
who are you to even say that?
When we are talking about class BALANCE, then yes, disagreeing IS being ignorant because you seem to have no goddamn idea what class balance is. I mean for pineapple's sake, you actively agreed with someone's sarcastic remark about buffing hurricane and TT, skills that are already really good and really don't need buffing.
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - Bribery - 2010-06-11
Lol, I can't believe there are actually people trying to justify that Bishops need any sort of boost whatsoever. There couldn't be a more perfect class in the game.
Can't wait for these Corsair updates. It'll definitely motivate me to train again.
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - Asumi - 2010-06-11
you know what your error is? comparing classes.
you melee classes want to train as fast as bishops, no you wont.
Same for bishops, they wont kill as fast as any melee class.
do not compare and focus on your job?
ppl is ignorant when say "omg that bishop does 9xk dmg! thats too much! nexon should nerf them".....
and something you all have been ignoring its: does it affect you if a bishop get any more power? if so, how?
Like i said before, focus on your own classes and stop being fucking stupid complaining about EVERYTHING nexon do!!
you want better stuff, being stronger, new areas, YOU GOT THEM! oh no wait...you complain!, those ring are gonna make you much stronger, but NOOOOOO you complain if you get stronger!!!!!!!!!
Speaking of new maps, plz someone tell me what the hell is in mastery that too many ppl wants? every time a new map comes, ooh its not masteria its not worthy? wtp is wrong with you???
the day you finally get masteria you will coplain and ask for another map.
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - FluffyFoxxie - 2010-06-11
Asumi Wrote:you know what your error is? comparing classes.
you melee classes want to train as fast as bishops, no you wont.
Same for bishops, they wont kill as fast as any melee class.
do not compare and focus on your job?
ppl is ignorant when say "omg that bishop does 9xk dmg! thats too much! nexon should nerf them".....
and something you all have been ignoring its: does it affect you if a bishop get any more power? if so, how?
Like i said before, focus on your own classes and stop being fucking stupid complaining about EVERYTHING nexon do!!
you want better stuff, being stronger, new areas, YOU GOT THEM! oh no wait...you complain!, those ring are gonna make you much stronger, but NOOOOOO you complain if you get stronger!!!!!!!!!
Speaking of new maps, plz someone tell me what the hell is in mastery that too many ppl wants? every time a new map comes, ooh its not masteria its not worthy? wtp is wrong with you???
the day you finally get masteria you will coplain and ask for another map.
Wow, did you seriously... SERIOUSLY tell US to stop comparing classes, when this whole fucking thing got started because you don't have the 1v1 damage output of other classes? You're a fucking joke. Stop posting. No one wants to hear your pomegranate anymore, and your head is too far up your ass to even make a coherant argument.
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - Schrono - 2010-06-11
I get the feeling that s/he is either too young to understand the hypocrisy of what s/he is asking for, doesn't care about the hypocrisy of it, or s/he's a troll.
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - jessiebelle - 2010-06-11
Sarah Wrote:this is ridiculous guys. should probably stop responding to asumi now.
this.
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - Asumi - 2010-06-11
I dont want to make bishops as strong as melee, someone fucking stupid thought that i just would like a improvement for a bishop. its that hard to understand? i know bishops WONT get anything, just saying i WOULD LIKE.
Need to explain myself better?
again with the perfect class?....wow! why is so perfect? cause it can train faster? its that? from now on ill go tell everyone i have a perfect class better than any other......(-_-)
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - Asumi - 2010-06-11
jessiebelle Wrote:this.
Yeah you should stop.
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - foxtales - 2010-06-11
So now we have Arch Mages buffed up to KMS standards, and in addition have our own special little elemental wands giving us another 25% boost in power over Bishops. I'm all for Arch Mage's but I really feel Bishop's could handle a buff on Angel Ray at least... and this is coming from the most pro AM / anti bishop person ever ):<
*not complaining or anything, but seeing as how people are talking about it
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - MetaSeraphim - 2010-06-11
Sarah Wrote:this is ridiculous guys. should probably stop responding to asumi now.
Asumi Wrote:Yeah you should stop.
But it's oh so fun watching both sides.
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - Blake - 2010-06-11
foxtales Wrote:So now we have Arch Mages buffed up to KMS standards, and in addition have our own special little elemental wands giving us another 25% boost in power over Bishops. I'm all for Arch Mage's but I really feel Bishop's could handle a buff on Angel Ray at least... and this is coming from the most pro AM / anti bishop person ever ):<
*not complaining or anything, but seeing as how people are talking about it
As a Bishop, I just can't agree. Bishops have everything they need. Period.
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - Manu - 2010-06-11
I wonder if the extra barrage range will be helpful at big foot :o
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - CarrionCrow - 2010-06-11
Not to mention, comparing classes is the bloody point of balancing them... Why the deuce would anyone need to be balanced for without something to be balanced against?
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - Duelman - 2010-06-11
I am actually really glad that I left the house for a couple hours and missed this.
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - Stereo - 2010-06-11
Duelman Wrote:Ummm you have a dk and a paladin, are you trying to say 20 PERCENT accuracy is nothing? How bout stacking against darkness so you don't have to spam cure pots.
My Night Lord misses at least 90% of the time with darkness. It has 368 accuracy. Darkness does not care how much acc you get, you'll always miss most of the time. Even if it could increase raw hit-rate by 20%, you'd still want to use All Cures so you can hit more than 30% of the time.
Neither my DK or Paladin needs more accuracy (last 2 years of gear updates have put it easily above most monsters, I still need acc pills for blue mushmom) and 20% accuracy helps the classes who don't need it. If you actually only had 120 acc (in range where improving bless would matter), then 20% acc instead of +20 acc would only be an extra 4 accuracy. Not exactly a significant change. If on the other hand you have 800+ acc as a Bowman, wham, you got +160 acc. How useful.
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - foxtales - 2010-06-11
@farewell
Generally I refrain from replying to post's that serve little to no purpose then to create drama. However, seeing as how you felt the need to quote me and disagree with my opinoin, I'd like to remind you that sharing your own person opinion (that you don't agree) and then providing no evidence to justify your point is only going to incite an endless cycle of the "NO, IM RIGHT!" game- as clearly demonstrated in this thread.
The indisputable fact is that now Arch Mage's are going to be buffed, and will in addition have there Elemental Wands giving them 25% more power- thus creating a new imbalance.
Return of the Explorers; Part 1 - MorbidMagus - 2010-06-11
I disagree, Archmages should be dealing huge numbers, much greater then what bishops do now; they are made to be an offensive class after all. Its not like they have any useful support skills to supply to the party, nor the overall survivability and cheapness of Bishops.