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[1.2.314] Battlemage Job - Duelman - 2010-05-29

Takebacker Wrote:I had it yesterday. Why do you think it's supposed to be different...?
I am just curious as to how much of a boost if gives them in killing speed for mobs and 1v1.

[1.2.314] Battlemage Job - Eos - 2010-05-29

FrozNlite Wrote:End-game for maximum potential in terms of killing ability. But hearing they wouldn't be able to manage your killing is enough to Sad @ the idea.

A 200 soloing Zakum or bigfoot in one of the wraith maps or similar with it in effect would be more interesting.

[1.2.314] Battlemage Job - Takebacker - 2010-05-29

Duelman Wrote:I am just curious as to how much of a boost if gives them in killing speed for mobs and 1v1.

Not much. It's still multiplicative and thus benefits us less because blow hits are really weak.

@ above: There's definitely no way a battle mage could kill BF effectively, lol. On the bright side, they will be able to take a hit by 130 or so.

[1.2.314] Battlemage Job - Bribery - 2010-05-29

Level 131 Battlemage @ Skeles. (Jesus christ those equips are insane. Look at his Matk and +Int). Too bad he added all that SP into Maple Warrior Rolleyes.

[video=youtube;jpwyzzaKYNU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpwyzzaKYNU[/video]


Level 121 Battlemage @ Skeles.

He is significantly weaker than the guy in the last video, but shows what a more realistic Battlemage would be like.

[video=youtube;5xSBg2dosnw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xSBg2dosnw&[/video]

What skill is causing the Skeles to take 42 damage/second?

[1.2.314] Battlemage Job - PeePeeAyeDeeKay - 2010-05-29

I'm fairly sure (not 100%Wink that 42 damage per sec is from Advanced Dark Aura
Fiel Wrote:어드밴스드 다크 오라 (Advanced Dark Aura)
Description: 다크 오라의 기능을 강화시킨다. 추가로 주위 적들에게 지속적으로 데미지를 준다.\n필요 스킬 : #c다크 오라 20레벨 이상# (Further increases the Dark Aura's abilities by adding more damage)

Last: MP 60 소비, 데미지 20% 강화, 기본 공격력 100

Google Translation:
Quote:Advanced Dark Aura (Advanced Dark Aura)
Description: Dark Aura enhances the functionality. In addition to the damage around the enemy gives consistently. \ N Required skill: # c Dark Aura 20 level or higher # (Further increases the Dark Aura's abilities by adding more damage)

Last: MP 60 consumption, 20% enhanced damage, base damage 100
@ bolded blue text: Sounds like it poisons targets nearby the target that is being hit.

[1.2.314] Battlemage Job - Takebacker - 2010-05-29

It doesnt poison, it just does straight damage to any monster within range.

[1.2.314] Battlemage Job - Fiel - 2010-05-29

That's pretty pitiful damage - 100 damage/sec is nothing at higher levels, even against bosses.

[1.2.314] Battlemage Job - Takebacker - 2010-05-29

Yeah it is pretty pathetic. It should just be poison like i thought it was to begin with. That said, you can sit on a rope and the poison will still work. (ultimate afk job, anyone?)

[1.2.314] Battlemage Job - Bribery - 2010-05-29

So the "100 matk" think is really just 100 damage per second an not +100 matk? Frown

Has anyone figured out the Genesis/Cyclone damage issue yet? I just noticed that the lvl 131 BM's Dark Genesis outdamages Cyclone but the level 121's doesn't.

[1.2.314] Battlemage Job - LiquidSwing - 2010-05-29

Dark Tornado thing looks so cool

[1.2.314] Battlemage Job - Alloy - 2010-05-29

Takebacker Wrote:Yeah it is pretty pathetic. It should just be poison like i thought it was to begin with. That said, you can sit on a rope and the poison will still work. (ultimate afk job, anyone?)

Well, if it makes mobs follow you, it HAS to help. Like, teleporting across an entire map, only to smash them out as they keep coming.

[1.2.314] Battlemage Job - Takebacker - 2010-05-29

Alloy Wrote:Well, if it makes mobs follow you, it HAS to help. Like, teleporting across an entire map, only to smash them out as they keep coming.

Nah, it doesn't aggro them.

Bribery Wrote:So the "100 matk" think is really just 100 damage per second an not +100 matk? Frown

Has anyone figured out the Genesis/Cyclone damage issue yet? I just noticed that the lvl 131 BM's Dark Genesis outdamages Cyclone but the level 121's doesn't.

Perhaps...it has an element? I dunno.

[1.2.314] Battlemage Job - Fiel - 2010-05-30

Bribery Wrote:Has anyone figured out the Genesis/Cyclone damage issue yet? I just noticed that the lvl 131 BM's Dark Genesis outdamages Cyclone but the level 121's doesn't.

Yeah. I saw in a video that Cyclone gives a massive MATK boost (it gave a 533 MATK boost at level 1 in the youtube video I saw).

[1.2.314] Battlemage Job - shouri - 2010-05-30

In regards to that lvl 131 battlemage video...

In case any of you didn't catch herr equipments:

Cape: 6 int, +9% int
Shoes: +3% int
Gloves: 10 int, int +4%, int +4%, HP +6%
Helmet: 31 int, int+4%, int +6%
Staff: 6/101 int/matt, int +9%, (something) +6%, (same something) +6% <~ I'm assuming those are magic attack +6s
Earrings: 3 int, int +9%, int +9%, luk +6%
Top: 4int (nothing special it seems)

So yeah.

Holy hell.

Question: is the % boost additive or multiplicative?
I.E. Will int +10%, int +10% on equips give you int*(1.2)? Or will it be int*1.1*1.1?
If it's additive then she has int +51% from the equips I was able to see...hot dam. She didn't hover over her bottom or her shield.
If it's multiplicative then she has +73.36% int 0.o

There's also those few +%s that may have been magic attack but since I can't read that language's writing I'm left out on that info. So yeah~ Hot dam.

[1.2.314] Battlemage Job - Hotshot - 2010-05-30

shouri Wrote:In regards to that lvl 131 battlemage video...

In case any of you didn't catch herr equipments:

Cape: 6 int, +9% int
Shoes: +3% int
Gloves: 10 int, int +4%, int +4%, HP +6%
Helmet: 31 int, int+4%, int +6%
Staff: 6/101 int/matt, int +9%, (something) +6%, (same something) +6% <~ I'm assuming those are magic attack +6s
Earrings: 3 int, int +9%, int +9%, luk +6%
Top: 4int (nothing special it seems)

So yeah.

Holy hell.

Question: is the % boost additive or multiplicative?
I.E. Will int +10%, int +10% on equips give you int*(1.2)? Or will it be int*1.1*1.1?
If it's additive then she has int +51% from the equips I was able to see...hot dam. She didn't hover over her bottom or her shield.
If it's multiplicative then she has +73.36% int 0.o

There's also those few +%s that may have been magic attack but since I can't read that language's writing I'm left out on that info. So yeah~ Hot dam.

From a formula/logic point of view, I would expect them to be additive. It looked like the stat screen was showing 6xx int + 8xx though. I think he had mw20 which would be +130-or-so int. It feels like something's missing.

[1.2.314] Battlemage Job - Hanabira.Kage - 2010-05-30

shouri Wrote:In regards to that lvl 131 battlemage video...

In case any of you didn't catch herr equipments:

Cape: 6 int, +9% int
Shoes: +3% int
Gloves: 10 int, int +4%, int +4%, HP +6%
Helmet: 31 int, int+4%, int +6%
Staff: 6/101 int/matt, int +9%, (something) +6%, (same something) +6% <~ I'm assuming those are magic attack +6s
Earrings: 3 int, int +9%, int +9%, luk +6%
Top: 4int (nothing special it seems)

So yeah.

Holy hell.

Question: is the % boost additive or multiplicative?
I.E. Will int +10%, int +10% on equips give you int*(1.2)? Or will it be int*1.1*1.1?
If it's additive then she has int +51% from the equips I was able to see...hot dam. She didn't hover over her bottom or her shield.
If it's multiplicative then she has +73.36% int 0.o

There's also those few +%s that may have been magic attack but since I can't read that language's writing I'm left out on that info. So yeah~ Hot dam.

The top has the following bonuses:

INT+2
WDEF 21
MDEF 15
DEX+4
LUK+4

p.s. I would upload the picture if I could, but Imageshack is f***ing up on me by saying that the file type doesn't match.

[1.2.314] Battlemage Job - FrozNlite - 2010-05-30

Hotshot Wrote:From a formula/logic point of view, I would expect them to be additive. It looked like the stat screen was showing 6xx int + 8xx though. I think he had mw20 which would be +130-or-so int. It feels like something's missing.

She has MW30. Even still, her base INT is too low for it to make that substantial of a difference, as compared to %INT equips.

Are %APSTAT equips the "wave of the future" in East Asian MS versions? I think I dismissed them earlier as being too difficult to obtain/not as powerful as I thought or whatnot, yet here you have a Battlemage that's stronger than myself and almost every other GMS Magician I know at Lv. 200, and this one's at 131. Please tell me this stark contrast from reality only exists in Tespia.

[1.2.314] Battlemage Job - LiquidSwing - 2010-05-30

FrozNlite Wrote:She has MW30. Even still, her base INT is too low for it to make that substantial of a difference, as compared to %INT equips.

Are %APSTAT equips the "wave of the future" in East Asian MS versions? I think I dismissed them earlier as being too difficult to obtain/not as powerful as I thought or whatnot, yet here you have a Battlemage that's stronger than myself and almost every other GMS Magician I know at Lv. 200, and this one's at 131. Please tell me this stark contrast from reality only exists in Tespia.

Basically if this % of a stat deal hits GMS, all equips on the market are automatically trash and everyone will have to re-scroll all their crap for percents? =/

Froz do you think there is a W. Atk equivalent of the m. atk % enchant?

[1.2.314] Battlemage Job - Takebacker - 2010-05-30

% equips are additive. W.att % equips exist. Even i have +% int equips, lol.

[1.2.314] Battlemage Job - Cyanne - 2010-05-30

FrozNlite Wrote:She has MW30. Even still, her base INT is too low for it to make that substantial of a difference, as compared to %INT equips.

Are %APSTAT equips the "wave of the future" in East Asian MS versions? I think I dismissed them earlier as being too difficult to obtain/not as powerful as I thought or whatnot, yet here you have a Battlemage that's stronger than myself and almost every other GMS Magician I know at Lv. 200, and this one's at 131. Please tell me this stark contrast from reality only exists in Tespia.

Actually, the % system has made a huge effect on kMS, many high-leveled kMSers have much over twice the damage ranges of gMS counterparts =/ One of the reasons I don't plan on upgrading anything for a while.