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is this legal? - butterfλi - 2008-10-02

(mathematically)

if cos²(u) + sin²(u) = 1, then does

cos²(2t) + sin²(2t) = 1?

because technically those are double angle formulas (where cos²(2t) = [cos(2t)]².

and if we let u = 2t, then cos²(2t) + sin²(2t) = 1 -> cos²(u) + sin²(u) = 1. but then we cant substitute 2t back in for u since its just a 1 now and nowhere to plug u into.


is this legal? - Derimed - 2008-10-02

No it's not legal, you're gonna get locked up for 25-life. Hothead WHAT YOU HAVE DONE HERE IS A FUCKING FELONY, A MOCKERY OF ALL THAT IS SACRED AND GOOD!!! Mad


is this legal? - butterfλi - 2008-10-02

relax man. im not quite here yet.

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is this legal? - Derimed - 2008-10-02

butterfli Wrote:relax man. im not quite here yet.

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Is that the same black hole our tax dollars go into? Rolleyes


is this legal? - Erich - 2008-10-02

butterfli Wrote:relax man. im not quite here yet.

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

why'd ya have to divide by zero?


is this legal? - butterfλi - 2008-10-02

Quantact Wrote:Is that the same black hole our tax dollars go into? Rolleyes

secretary of US treasury mustve divided by zero.


is this legal? - psychopat - 2008-10-02

If t is a variable and not a function, then yes that's legal.
If t is a function, I'm not 100% sure but I think it's also legal... not sure.


is this legal? - Derimed - 2008-10-02

butterfli Wrote:secretary of US treasury mustve divided by zero.

They shred cash and stuff lamps with it, what did you expect? Rolleyes


is this legal? - butterfλi - 2008-10-02

psychopat Wrote:If t is a variable and not a function, then yes that's legal.
If t is a function, I'm not 100% sure but I think it's also legal... not sure.

the whole problem is (vector) integrating.

i simplified the integral to look like:

inte[sqrt(144(cos²(2t) + sin²(2t)) + 25)]dt

if i did cos²(2t) + sin²(2t) = 1, then it'd look like

inte[sqrt(144(1) + 25)]dt
=inte[sqrt(169)]dt
=inte[13]dt = 13t

the answer and final stepped looked to easy and simple so i wondered if doing that trig thing was legal lol. its suspicious when complicated math problems come out to have simple answers.


is this legal? - Magus - 2008-10-02

No but this is:
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is this legal? - Wani - 2008-10-02

All jokes aside, yeah, that's valid maths.


is this legal? - JoeTang - 2008-10-02

cos²(u) + sin²(u) = 1
Holds valid, as long as the arguments of the trigonometric functions, u, are the same.
So, since u = 2t, it would be true for
cos²(2t) + sin²(2t) = 1
But not true for
cos²(2t) + sin²(3t) = 1
since 2t is not equal 3t (unless t = 0).

And yes, I do believe that is the correct solution for the integral.


is this legal? - Worthyness - 2008-10-02

inte[sqrt(144(cos²(2t) + sin²(2t)) + 25)]dt

What you are doing is u substitution. in order for your theory to be viable, you would have to do the following:

u= 2t --> du = 2 dt

so technically the answer you have is wrong since you did not compensate for the 2dt...

But all the other math workings i can't do, since i'm not in a high level calculus class =P

i.e. no clue how to do this... but you can do the u thingy if you compensate for the dt part...


is this legal? - JoeTang - 2008-10-02

You don't have to do u substitution. cos²(2t) + sin²(2t) = 1.


is this legal? - butterfλi - 2008-10-02

Worthyness Wrote:inte[sqrt(144(cos²(2t) + sin²(2t)) + 25)]dt

What you are doing is u substitution. in order for your theory to be viable, you would have to do the following:

u= 2t --> du = 2 dt

so technically the answer you have is wrong since you did not compensate for the 2dt...
u was just a random variable. i didnt do u substitution, it was trig substitution/trig identity.


is this legal? - Stereo - 2008-10-02

13t + c

Tongue

You'd need a specific solution to know what c is.



is this legal? - Rain - 2008-10-02

I snap. Your getting death row now D:>

QUICK! TO THE ESCAPE POD! LAWYER!


is this legal? - butterfλi - 2008-10-02

Stereo Wrote:13t + c

Tongue

You'd need a specific solution to know what c is.

it was a definite integral Tongue2u2

thanks to people who answered. people who didnt can go get divided by zero now.


is this legal? - JezzaRules - 2008-10-02

uhh sorry I don't do Specialist Math :f6:

Wow... that looks kinda confusing, shame I only do Methods 3/4 Frown


is this legal? - KajitiSouls - 2008-10-02

You know about that 1 over there? I'm pretty sure that means the t's have canceled each other like matter on anti-matter. And you're not doing anything illegal as far as I can tell.