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Advisory for Mechanics. (ANSWERS AND QUESTIONS!) - warustar - 2011-01-14

Okay so, I don't want to be behind and I want to think ahead of time.
I'm sick of procrastinating every time a new job that I'm excited about comes out, ahah.

So here's the help I'm looking' for. I'm not funded at all unfortunately.
I am in the world of Windia if that is needed, and I want to go for Low-STR since I know it's nearly impossible to go STRless, LOL!

These are the equips I have ready for my Mechanic, I know they suck. ;___;
But it will help to whoever would like to advise me on things to get to go Low-STR.


[EQUIPS]

Lilin's Ring
Resistance Ring (After the bug is fixed.) (Yes, I know Lilin's Ring and Resistance Ring does not stack, LOL.)
Rex's Red Earrings; (3 STR 3 DEX)
(x2) Revolution Gun (I can get TWO of them since I have 2 weapon boxes.)
Maple Cannon Shooter
Spingleman's Necklace
Farming points for Dojo Belts (?)
Mushroom Kingdom Medal
Talking Witch Hat ( [+6] 1 Slot 6 STR 6 DEX 3 INT )
Tons of Robot Parts; LOL.

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[ USE ]

(x1) Cape for DEX 70%
(x1) Scroll for Gun for ATT 60%
(x2) Resistance Weapon Boxes
(x7) Pink Energy Charges


I also have only 21m as pure Mesos also with that.
So basically I'm in a pretty tight situation at the moment.

Should I buy maybe a couple of Zombie Rings? Or what should I do for example?
I don't know what to do for me to go Low-STR. I plan on Mechanic being my main character; 85% sure of it.

Also, I WILL look around at the same time I ask about this, but help is appreciated! (:

I've never been rich, if it isn't obvious. XD


I also have questions on SP Builds as well. I have looked around in Ellin Forest, and that's about it.
Any other places or links on that? I also need a good site that is an updated POST-BB database so I can look for certain items that I need.
For example, since I'm somewhat poor, I need to find out what monsters/quests drop/give Gun for ATT 60%?


Thank you!
-Waru

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Advice given:
(Will give credits, in a little bit. Some of what I've posted is from my findings as well. ^^)
Zombie Rings - 3 Rings for 4m Each (12m) ---- Good for multiple characters. Can help.
Maple Cannon Shooter/Maple Guns ---------- Ideal for Low-STR.
Scroll for Glove for ATT 60% ----------- Can be received from Masteria's Level 36 quest, Jane's quest, or Marcel's quest in Ludi. Also dropped by Bloctopus.
Scroll for Gun for ATK 60% ------------ Dropped by Pink Teddies, and King Bloctopus.
For Unfunded People: Buy 100% Dex for Overall and scroll a rob or Sauna ------------------- 100% scrolls can be bought from NPCs deep in various towns. (e.g. Ellinia, Orbis, etc) Sauna has a quest for level 30. Not too sure if it changed after BB.



Advisory for Mechanics. (ANSWERS AND QUESTIONS!) - CautionSin - 2011-01-14

honestly, don't even bother with one and continue with whatever class you currently have.

Advisory for Mechanics. (ANSWERS AND QUESTIONS!) - CarrionCrow - 2011-01-14

Two things. You can't get more than 1 revolution weapon, the box can't be opened if you have a gun already. The other thing would be the Rex's earrings. Do not get those if the Mech got the same kind of hurricane-like attack that BMs and Whs do. Since each hit counts as a separate attack it drains the durability way too fast to be bearable.

Advisory for Mechanics. (ANSWERS AND QUESTIONS!) - warustar - 2011-01-14

Oh, interesting.
I thought that I could open two.
Also, they are different boxes. One is the one I got from reaching level 70 on my BaM, the other is one from a long time ago, before the Resistance even came out.

So I'm assuming since they're different boxes, I could open two and see which one has better WA.

But anyway, what should I go for with my money low like that? >:


Advisory for Mechanics. (ANSWERS AND QUESTIONS!) - Atuan - 2011-01-14

The 2nd box from your BaM will be a machine part for your mech.

And no, don't bother going low str with that kind of cash.
You can try if you want. You'll only make more money as you keep playing. But if you find yourself not upgrading weapons just because you lack STR, pump STR. A few extra points of DEX aren't going to make up for garbage weapons.

Keep it capped as low as possible. But don't kill yourself trying for some ridiculously low STR.

Advisory for Mechanics. (ANSWERS AND QUESTIONS!) - warustar - 2011-01-14

What equips do you think I should be looking for?
I don't know really.
Should I buy a couple/three zombie rings? >:
I don't know what to buy. I have about 27m as we speak; which I realize isn't that much.


Advisory for Mechanics. (ANSWERS AND QUESTIONS!) - Twilight - 2011-01-14

warustar Wrote:
What equips do you think I should be looking for?
I don't know really.
Should I buy a couple/three zombie rings? >:
I don't know what to buy. I have about 27m as we speak; which I realize isn't that much.


Your best bet would be to set about 5-10m aside for 'emergencies.' Do some research on what mobs drop what items and try to hunt for valuable items/gear. Stay up to date with the quests that give out valuable rewards. To be honest you shouldn't start spending money on any gear until you have at least 75-100m to fall back on. Or a steady supply of NX to sell Rolleyes.

Advisory for Mechanics. (ANSWERS AND QUESTIONS!) - TLeviathan - 2011-01-14

Should try to get to 70 or so on a character (I have no idea what your current main is) and do the Masteria quest line up through the Ninja badge exchange; you'll get a 60% gfa for doing it anyways, so you should on your mech regardless. Kill windraiders for hours, make profit... they drop a lot more badges now and have a fairly high chance of netting you 750k mesos per 50 badges. It's generally the quickest way to make mesos out of nothing if you really have no other options (like nx). Or alternatively, I'd suggest you just manage to get to 70 on your mech then train there for a considerable period of time (windraiders are 70, so you could technically start a few levels sooner I suppose, but the stormbreakers are 80...). Up to 10m/hr once you can clear the map quickly enough (though of course that isn't happening at 70). Your resistance gun should last you 'til your Maple one, so you really have no reason to add str 'til your 70s or later anyways.

Advisory for Mechanics. (ANSWERS AND QUESTIONS!) - Secun - 2011-01-14

^Pretty much this.

My Revolution Staff lasted my Battle Mage up until I got an Evil Wings, although not the best comparison, the Revolution weapons still aren't anything to sneeze at.

Advisory for Mechanics. (ANSWERS AND QUESTIONS!) - ChaosH - 2011-01-14

warustar Wrote:
What equips do you think I should be looking for?
I don't know really.
Should I buy a couple/three zombie rings? >:
I don't know what to buy. I have about 27m as we speak; which I realize isn't that much.

Hmm, you'll need a LOT more mesos:

8 Wattk WG - 45m (or 30m for a 7 Wattk WG? Not sure)
Pure Gold Mech equips- 1~2m for the whole set if you know how to search the FM Wink
DEX Scar Helm - 60m
3 Zrings - 12m
Deputy Star - 50m (or you could do the quests to get one)

169m mesos for the whole set (buy them in that order). However, the only important equips are the 8 Wattk WG and a 5 Wattk Pure Gold Engine, which only costs like 48m, at most; do NLC quests for GFAs and mesos.

Don't worry about adding STR. With the resistance ring, pure gold engine, 8 Wattk WG and a 5/7 60% scrolled maple gun, you'll have 126 Wattk at level 120, STRless. 156 Wattk at level 130 if you max the skill Extreme Mech. You could also use NLC pots and get a MoN for extra 22 Wattk.

178 Wattk. STRless. With less than 100m funding. Holy pineapple Stunned

I don't recommend going STRless anyways - add 50 STR so you can wear some potential equips, you'll find lots of them while training, and eventually you'll find something like a 2~3% Dex/allstats even on lvl 40 equipment. No cubes required.

BTW, Scroll for Gun for ATT 60% drop from Pink Teddies (also drop Steelies and Mighty Bullets) and King Bloctopus (they also drop chaos scrolls). Bloctopus drop GFA 60%. Train your Mechanic on Ludi and you might find the scrolls you need for you gun and make money at the same time (sell the GFAs and chaos scrolls). Omega Sector mobs also drop nice scrolls and are good for training.

Advisory for Mechanics. (ANSWERS AND QUESTIONS!) - SwordStaker - 2011-01-14

AdviceBig GrinON'T MAKE ONE!

Advisory for Mechanics. (ANSWERS AND QUESTIONS!) - Derosis - 2011-01-14

SwordStaker Wrote:AdviceBig GrinON'T MAKE ONE!

Negative Panda may leave.

Just go with what you got btw, you need way more money than what you need now to be shopping for gear.

Advisory for Mechanics. (ANSWERS AND QUESTIONS!) - Worthyness - 2011-01-14

1st things first: you have no attack glove: Buy one.that's pretty much as necessary as it gets. Revolution gun until level 64 for the cannon shooter. Figure out items as necessary.

THEN: 100% for dex an overall <<- easy damage boost early if you can't afford the 750k on at least 1 overall, hunt for on with potential and then scroll 100%

Rings aren't THAT necessary. They should be one of the last things to equip. But Zombie rings should be cheap enough to buy for you. Did you get a Big Bang ring or any of its counterparts?

Save money for pots and junk. Honestly, i've only ever made 100m by myself, but that's when people actually needed other people to go on Zakum runs and the helms were like 35m to run. All my other mesos come off using the same equips and or funding by my cousin.

Advisory for Mechanics. (ANSWERS AND QUESTIONS!) - warustar - 2011-01-14

Mmmm, thanks everyone.
Issue is, I don't have enough money for WATK Gloves like many of you suggested, I think I'll do the Masteria quests on various characters on mine.
Then save it on my Mechanic. What glove should I use my GFAs on? o:

Also, is 3 Zombie rings worth it? It's about 12m for 3, and I have 27m atm.



Also, I still haven't gotten any core answers on if I should be a REG STR or Low STR. D:
I have to decide, or when I should go Low STR..Or .. SOMETHING. LOL.


Advisory for Mechanics. (ANSWERS AND QUESTIONS!) - ChaosH - 2011-01-14

warustar Wrote:
Mmmm, thanks everyone.
Issue is, I don't have enough money for WATK Gloves like many of you suggested, I think I'll do the Masteria quests on various characters on mine.
Then save it on my Mechanic. What glove should I use my GFAs on? o:

None. You shouldn't try to scroll a glove yourself. On average, 3 out of 5 GFAs will work on a WG. That's 6 Wattk for 45~50m (5 GFA 60%Wink, but you can buy a 8 Wattk WG for 47m. By trying to scroll your own glove, you'll LOSE money unless you're lucky enough to get a 10 Wattk WG (100m profit). 93% of losing money, not good.

Sell the GFAs. 27m you have + 2 GFAs = 8 Wattk WG bought from the FM. Search on CH 2 - avoid CH 1 FM 1 like HELL.

Actually, if you have enough determination, you could just spam mule characters for the masteria quests. Make a character, level to lvl 36, do GFA 60% and GFA 70%, delete character, repeat. With only those 2 quests (I don't know any other lv <40 GFA quest Hurt) you should make around 18~20m per character with a bonus 10m if you find a potential scroll and 250~500k for each maker powder you find. 2~3 mule characters and your Mechanic will get that Scar helm/Zhelm you need

warustar Wrote:

Also, is 3 Zombie rings worth it? It's about 12m for 3, and I have 27m atm.

Get a +10 DEX bathrobe (400k if you scroll it yourself), save your money for the Wattk WG, and then buy the Zrings. Don't buy them for anything higher than 4m however. A Scar helm would be better, 60~70m for +15 STR and +17 DEX, that's 3m mesos per stat point. Sure, the Zrings are much cheaper and you can get them earlier, but the price your paying for those DEX and STR points isn't as good as the Scar helm.

Stay away from Deputy Stars BTW - 50m for +5 allstats, 10m per point, no thanks.

The advantage of the Zring is that you can use the same rings for all your characters on the same world, so buying a Zring is much better if you plan on playing more than more character.


warustar Wrote:

Also, I still haven't gotten any core answers on if I should be a REG STR or Low STR. D:
I have to decide, or when I should go Low STR..Or .. SOMETHING. LOL.

Like I said in my post, go Low-STR (50).

Advisory for Mechanics. (ANSWERS AND QUESTIONS!) - warustar - 2011-01-14

ChaosH Wrote:None. You shouldn't try to scroll a glove yourself. On average, 3 out of 5 GFAs will work on a WG. That's 6 Wattk for 45~50m (5 GFA 60%), but you can buy a 8 Wattk WG for 47m. By trying to scroll your own glove, you'll LOSE money unless you're lucky enough to get a 10 Wattk WG (100m profit). 93% of losing money, not good.

Sell the GFAs. 27m you have + 2 GFAs = 8 Wattk WG bought from the FM. Search on CH 2 - avoid CH 1 FM 1 like HELL.

Actually, if you have enough determination, you could just spam mule characters for the masteria quests. Make a character, level to lvl 36, do GFA 60% and GFA 70%, delete character, repeat. With only those 2 quests (I don't know any other lv <40 GFA quest Hurt) you should make around 18~20m per character with a bonus 10m if you find a potential scroll and 250~500k for each maker powder you find. 2~3 mule characters and your Mechanic will get that Scar helm/Zhelm you need



Get a +10 DEX bathrobe (400k if you scroll it yourself), save your money for the Wattk WG, and then buy the Zrings. Don't buy them for anything higher than 4m however. A Scar helm would be better, 60~70m for +15 STR and +17 DEX, that's 3m mesos per stat point. Sure, the Zrings are much cheaper and you can get them earlier, but the price your paying for those DEX and STR points isn't as good as the Scar helm.

Stay away from Deputy Stars BTW - 50m for +5 allstats, 10m per point, no thanks.

The advantage of the Zring is that you can use the same rings for all your characters on the same world, so buying a Zring is much better if you plan on playing more than more character.




Like I said in my post, go Low-STR (50).

Oh, my.
Thanks so much!

This really helped, I'm ready now then ever. This is exactly what I needed.
I am much more sure about what to do.

Also, I have two characters I can do the GFA quest in NLC on.
Should I use those GFAs on like...plain work gloves?


Advisory for Mechanics. (ANSWERS AND QUESTIONS!) - FoolsLove - 2011-01-14

Just FYI, Jane has a level 40 quest that can give 10 or 60% GFA. Marcel's final quest in Ludi is the same but I think the last one is in the 60/70s now.

Advisory for Mechanics. (ANSWERS AND QUESTIONS!) - warustar - 2011-01-14

Ah, I remember the Ludi quest.
I recall that the Ludi one gives you 60% for sure. Nothing else. But I don't know what level it is for now.. >:

Advisory for Mechanics. (ANSWERS AND QUESTIONS!) - FoolsLove - 2011-01-14

Marcel's quest isn't a guaranteed 60%. It's like Jane's quest, can give 10% or 60%.

Advisory for Mechanics. (ANSWERS AND QUESTIONS!) - ChaosH - 2011-01-14

warustar Wrote:

Also, I have two characters I can do the GFA quest in NLC on.
Should I use those GFAs on like...plain work gloves?

Like I said before, selling the GFAs and then buying an already scrolled WG would be better But if you want to use the scrolls anyways, use them on plain work gloves so you can use them on any character, unless all your characters are pirates/mechanics, in that case hunt for a lvl 40~50 pirate glove with a good potential and scroll it.