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Pierce Limit Raised!... - Truemark - 2008-07-29
...but I've already found the new D/C amount.
No D/C
![[Image: 189kPierce.jpg]](http://www.impulsetfc.com/images/misc/ms/pierce/189kPierce.jpg)
D/C
![[Image: 208kPierce.jpg]](http://www.impulsetfc.com/images/misc/ms/pierce/208kPierce.jpg)
So, it looks like the cap was raised from 150k to 200k. I've hit 25+ 150~189 (never could get a ss of anything in the 190 range) and didn't d/c. Hit 200k+ twice and d/c'd.
Better, but still not perfect.
Pierce Limit Raised!... - Aeosyn - 2008-07-29
It was all me, baby
Pierce Limit Raised!... - LazyBui - 2008-07-29
Wow, they're sure taking their time with this one. It's not hard to fix. @_@
Why they're going in 50k increments, I don't understand at all.
I feel bad for Marksmen. Always getting owned and rarely getting compensated in any way.
Pierce Limit Raised!... - Harrisonized - 2008-07-29
Well, technically, you never need to hit that high anyways, unless you're bossing... just don't use an apple and you can train just as effectively.
Pierce Limit Raised!... - Truemark - 2008-07-29
Harrisonized Wrote:Well, technically, you never need to hit that high anyways, unless you're bossing... just don't use an apple and you can train just as effectively.
You may want to understand how Pierce works before commenting. We need to fully charge pierce to try to kill the first monster in the mob, who gets hit with the weakest part of the attack.
Fully charging pierce then leads to the last monster taking massive damage, which is beyond our control and can lead us to d/c. So while we don't need to hit that high on the last monster, we do have to charge fully to make pierce effective.
I'm using an apple at level 162 with no where close to godly equips. Marksmen in other versions come close to breaking 200k in the screen shots we've seen. So we probably will still run into the problem down the line. Asking Nexon to actually fix it doesn't sound unreasonable.
Pierce Limit Raised!... - Retalion - 2008-07-29
Hmmm, when did this happen? There hasnt been an SC recently that would fix it has there? The increase is good but as Trumark says, its still not perfect.
That being said, where would you have to use pierce with apples? I cant think of any situation other than training with apples (which doesnt happen often). There's no boss I can think of that has 6 monsters in a row to hit and whatnot.
Ps. Just curious, but who's stronger? Trumark or Carlos? I know you both have points into hp but... yeah. If Carlos is stronger, is there any chance he can get to 200k without an apple (which would mean the cap isnt practical for normal training still). It'd suck if you'd have to train with a warrior pill instead of a warrior elixir just because the extra attack leads to dcing with the cap =X
Pierce Limit Raised!... - Worthyness - 2008-07-29
I assume that, even if their equips were the exact same as well as buffs, Trumark may be weaker due to more Blood building than Xbish?
^^^^ don't trust me on that remark...
But seeing as they both can hit 150k no problem without apples, when they're at higher levels, i am sure both will be able to break 200k easily on a max pierce with/out elixer
Pierce Limit Raised!... - Truemark - 2008-07-29
Retalion Wrote:Truemark or Carlos?
Carlos is much stronger. 10 levels ahead + 50 dex + better equips. Although I still own him when it comes to a leg stomp
Pierce Limit Raised!... - Chameleonic - 2008-07-29
:f6: When did they change it?
Time to hassle them again to FIX it once and for all.
Pierce Limit Raised!... - DrRusty - 2008-07-29
wow nice, when did this happen though? wasn't it 150k like 2 weeks ago?
B> removal of 99,999 damage limit cap!!
Pierce Limit Raised!... - Harrisonized - 2008-07-29
DrRusty Wrote:B> removal of 99,999 damage limit cap!!DW, in time, your day will come.
Spoiler
![[Image: 121648517002pq7.jpg]](http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/7849/121648517002pq7.jpg)
I imagine that the pierce cap of 200K will be removed as well when that patch comes, fixing any problems that we might have at the moment.
Pierce Limit Raised!... - Itay - 2008-07-29
This is really nice to see they're fixing it! Did it get raised to 200k last weeks SC?
Pierce Limit Raised!... - Beaner - 2008-07-29
yes the new cap is 200k.
also, i have 2-3 points left in hp, i have washed more of it out so my dex is almost back to normal. which is the only reason there is a significant difference in our dmg. i was hitting 150k on weak stuff with lv 27 pierce a couple lvs ago. i have since lved, maxed pierce, and improved some quips. i cant hit 200k yet, but if i apple i most deff will.
Pierce Limit Raised!... - Truemark - 2008-07-29
Just keep complaining. They seem to have been listening lately.
http://forum.nexon.net/MAPLESTORY/forums/1380610/ShowThread.aspx#1380610
Pierce Limit Raised!... - Retalion - 2008-07-29
Itay Wrote:This is really nice to see they're fixing it! Did it get raised to 200k last weeks SC?
If it was, I'd question why it took almost a week for the Windian crossbowmen (who are the main testers for the pierce dc) to find out D:
Just curious, but dont you guys ever get annoyed that you waste apples testing if you dc? D: I think you guys have wasted quite a few already =X
Pierce Limit Raised!... - Truemark - 2008-07-29
It may have taken me a little longer because I now use a weaker in attack, but faster nishada, and 90%+ of my training comes from bossing.
As for apples, yeah, it does suck to use them, but I've only wasted about 10~15 in total for testing. If it makes our class better in the long run, it's a cost I don't mind incurring.
Pierce Limit Raised!... - Dusk - 2008-07-30
God, this whole ordeal is really stupid. Why don't they just raise the cap to 500k, and/or modify Pierce so it does more damage on the first target and doesn't increase by such a ridiculous exponential multiplier?
Pierce Limit Raised!... - Abba26 - 2008-08-21
Yea, I did a few 180Ks at Zakum summons with an apple. I tried again and dced. Must have been 200K.
Pierce Limit Raised!... - Chameleonic - 2008-08-22
Dusk Wrote:God, this whole ordeal is really stupid. Why don't they just raise the cap to 500k, and/or modify Pierce so it does more damage on the first target and doesn't increase by such a ridiculous exponential multiplier?
I'd prefer that. More 1hko's of the first monster would help a lot more than overkilling the last few by 100+k damage.
Pierce Limit Raised!... - Russt - 2008-08-22
Indeed.
I believe Pierce damage is capped at around 248k, as in if they trashed the DC cap altogether it would never hit any more than that on the last monster with the highest possible damage range.
Just throwing that out there.